ahhh...st165 offset question

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ahhh...st165 offset question

Postby scandinavian link » Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:02 am

ok, so considering getting a new set of rims.

they are 15x7 with 42mm offset. i don't know how the whole offset thing works, so i'm just checking...will they fit/not give odd handling characteristics?

thanks for any help.
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Postby Rick89GTS » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:25 am

Go here:

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/offset.htm

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

I'm running 15" x 7" with +45mm offset on my 165. I had to get 3mm spacers on the rear to clear the struts. The stock 165 runs 14" x 6" with +38 or +39mm offset. I'm no expert, you'll be close but may still need some thin spacers.
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Postby scandinavian link » Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:57 am

well, i guess i'm not gonna get em. cuz even if they fit, i'm guessing i can't really run anything over a 205 tire on them, and i want 215 or 225 if i can.

so, ooh well. sucks...they were perfect gunmetal ones like i want with some alpine tires, and only 150 bucks right now.

ooh well :shrug:
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Postby illGT4 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:00 am

scandinavian link wrote:well, i guess i'm not gonna get em. cuz even if they fit, i'm guessing i can't really run anything over a 205 tire on them, and i want 215 or 225 if i can.

so, ooh well. sucks...they were perfect gunmetal ones like i want with some alpine tires, and only 150 bucks right now.

ooh well :shrug:


? I'm pretty sure you can run atleast a 225 on a 7" rim.

Maybe I misunderstood you.
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Postby scandinavian link » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:39 pm

i meant because of the offset. if it's already going to be questionable because of the offset, having the tires as wide as i can fit on the rim is just going to guarantee rubbing....right?
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Postby Gary » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:47 pm

Read Rick's post. He is running 15x7 with 45mm offset and need 3mm to clear the strut. So, your wheels are 42 mm, they should clear the strut. Otherwise, a pair of thin spacers (3-5 mm) should be able to fix the problem.
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Postby scandinavian link » Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:19 pm

i know that they should fit...if barely.

i just thought that since it would be so close, wouldn't that mean i can't run very wide tires, due to the fact that they go out further than the wheel itself?

like i said, i don't know much about this. that was just my understanding, that since the offset would be a close call, i'd be stuck with 205 tires to keep it at the same width as the rim itself.

and i don't want to use spacers if possible.

i dunno, you all are much smarter than i am, and i don't understand it too well, so...i'm lost :twisted:
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Postby illGT4 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:04 pm

scandinavian link wrote:i know that they should fit...if barely.

i just thought that since it would be so close, wouldn't that mean i can't run very wide tires, due to the fact that they go out further than the wheel itself?

like i said, i don't know much about this. that was just my understanding, that since the offset would be a close call, i'd be stuck with 205 tires to keep it at the same width as the rim itself.

and i don't want to use spacers if possible.

i dunno, you all are much smarter than i am, and i don't understand it too well, so...i'm lost :twisted:


It's okay being confused.. everyone is equal here.

Why don't you like spacers? If not spacers the only real choice is to get a different width/offset wheel.
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Postby scandinavian link » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:30 pm

about the spacers...i dunno. i suppose i'd just like things to fit properly and not feel like i'm band aiding things together.

as far as that being the way unless i go with different width or offset...that's why i was deciding not to buy them. to wait till i found a set with an offset that would work better.

so anyway. about the width of the tires...am i wrong? i see i did word it badly when i said i couldn't use a 215 or 225 on them. i understand i could mount them on the wheels, i just didn't know if they'd work on the car because of the offset.

sorry :wink:
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Postby illGT4 » Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:32 pm

scandinavian link wrote:about the spacers...i dunno. i suppose i'd just like things to fit properly and not feel like i'm band aiding things together.



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Postby scandinavian link » Sat Oct 16, 2004 1:25 pm

besides...roo was talking bad about them :lol: but yeah, i know alot of people here use them and like them alot.

so, i dunno. we'll see i guess. if i can snag them at close to 150 or so, i may do it anyway, and maybe get spacers. we'll see.

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i just like gunmetal and black rims...the tires are a bit tall tho :| but they'd only be used for rallyx...unless they are too tall for that too. IF i decided to buy them that is.
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Postby Rick89GTS » Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:29 pm

I didn't like the idea of spacers either but using 2 thin 3mm spacers on there rear end was nothing to worry about.
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Postby scandinavian link » Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:14 pm

hmph...here are the wheels i really want. but they're just impossible. haha.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... gory=43955

why couldn't they just be 5x100 and a nice 37-39mm offset or so :P

pretty oz rims. :shoots:
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Postby Gary » Mon Oct 18, 2004 3:44 pm

EVO doesn't come with that OZ.
It comes with Enkei.
Those rims are from Lancer OZ edition.
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Postby scandinavian link » Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:55 pm

yeah i know. i was just posting a random auction to show them :wink:

there is a complete lack of good aftermarket wheels in decent sizes/bolt pattern/offset...at least pertaining to celicas
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