ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

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Postby 935motorsports » Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:31 am

I tried this in the early years of alltrac.net ~2000 when the forum was just a website.

The whiteline st185 bar looked like it would fit at first glance. However, there is a hump on the body that the st185 bar hits. You can see the st165 bar has room to clear the hump on it.

IF you had a project race car or something, maybe you could hammer down or cut away this hump and MAYBE the st185 bar would fit then.

The ABS unit is under the rear seat and this is why there is a hump sticking out in the body.
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby bmt » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:20 am

Arise old thread!!

Since we have established that St205 arb/ swaybars fit in St185. Will they fit in a St165 if it doesnt have abs?
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby bmt » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:55 am

Just a heads up guys. Tonight I fitted a St185/St205, (Same part number, BTR29Z), Whiteline rear bar into my St165. As it doesn't have the ABS bulge on the floor it fitted perfect. Hope this helps!!!!
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby underscore » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:40 pm

So if the 185/205 bars fit the 65, can a 165 bar fit a 185/205?
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby bmt » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:37 am

I would think so as it has an extra dip to clear the abs hump on a St165 but on a St185 , St205 there isnt a hump to hit. Honestly unless you get it for free I dont know why you'd bother though....
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby MrMcQuacker » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:30 am

Can anyone confirm, Does the st185 or st205 front sway bar fit the st165?
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby freddie » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:34 am

I have fitted Whiteline front and rear ST185 away bars to my ST165. The reason: 165 bars are no longer available.

The front sway bars are a direct fit. No problems here.

But the rear sway bars are different. The 165 have a funny little secret pocket compartment in the rear floor behind the left rear seat, above the diff. It has a removable cover, but there is nothing in it and not used. It must be there for rallying homoligation purposes. The rear 165 sway bar has an offset to go round it.

So what I did was to modify this little pocket. With heat from an oxy torch, a long leaver bar and a big hammer and with help from my son, we caved the pocket in and bent it up in the floor out of the way. I then repainted the area in the car and under the car and put back the cover. Nice and neat.

The bar is mounted to the body in the original mounting bolt holes. For fixing the bars to the suspension I have used 2 spherical rod ends with a short HT threaded rod and lock nuts between them. on each side front and rear.

I have also got F&R 205 std. sway bars, but they are useless. Don't fit and are thinner.

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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby MrMcQuacker » Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:56 am

Whiteline has the rear st185 20mm, That fits the rear on st165 with slight mod. But I can't seem to find a place that sells the front for any of the alltrac/gt4. But I can't find the front. Does anyone happen to know exactly where I can find one? A link would be awesome :)
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby underscore » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:15 pm

freddie wrote:But the rear sway bars are different. The 165 have a funny little secret pocket compartment in the rear floor behind the left rear seat, above the diff. It has a removable cover, but there is nothing in it and not used. It must be there for rallying homoligation purposes. The rear 165 sway bar has an offset to go round it.


This was covered like 3 posts above yours, it's for the ABS if your car is equipped with it (obviously yours isn't)
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby Flyin' Bryan » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:59 pm

underscore wrote:So if the 185/205 bars fit the 65, can a 165 bar fit a 185/205?


Underscore did you ever try this out on a car? I ask be cause I have an unused 165 Whiteline bar and no 165's anymore but I have 185.
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Re: ST185/ST205 Swaybar in a ST165

Postby underscore » Sat Feb 15, 2014 2:04 am

I didn't, but I can't see any reason why you couldn't
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