Using camber plates as caster plates?

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Postby gt4tified » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:27 pm

esracing wrote:the bolt will give u enough camber the plates will do camber and caster at the same time. ok first make shure the plate are centerd then ajust the camber with the bolts then do the caster also u have to ceter the toe during this step


I'm wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to adjust the plates on top for caster and camber FIRST, and then go to the camber bolts to lock in an exact camber setting?
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Re: Re:

Postby MWP » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:58 pm

gt4tified wrote:I'm wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to adjust the plates on top for caster and camber FIRST, and then go to the camber bolts to lock in an exact camber setting?


Yup, it would.
Infact if your using camber/crash bolts, you should rotate the tops so they only effect castor, dial those in first, then adjust camber with the bolts.
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Re: Re:

Postby mike325ci » Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:51 pm

MWP wrote:
gt4tified wrote:I'm wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to adjust the plates on top for caster and camber FIRST, and then go to the camber bolts to lock in an exact camber setting?


Yup, it would.
Infact if your using camber/crash bolts, you should rotate the tops so they only effect castor, dial those in first, then adjust camber with the bolts.


...except that we have only 3 bolts in the front, so they cannot be rotated 90 degrees, only 120 degrees, so you will always adjust caster and camber at the same time with a standard camber plate (i.e. not Noltec-type ones).
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Postby MWP » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:36 pm

mike325ci wrote:...except that we have only 3 bolts in the front, so they cannot be rotated 90 degrees, only 120 degrees, so you will always adjust caster and camber at the same time with a standard camber plate (i.e. not Noltec-type ones).


Its called drilling and 3 new high-tensile bolts :)
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby underscore » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:42 pm

Bumping this up. I've got camber plates for both cars but I'm liking this idea of using them to adjust caster instead. I don't want to go too crazy with the camber, especially on my DD< to keep the tire wear normal so will I need to order these "crash bolts" to dial the camber back a bit, or do Celicas come with these stock?
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby Mafix » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:08 pm

you can get them at any parts store. just call them cam bolts instead of crash bolts. the 5th gen does not have them while the preface lift 4th gens do.

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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby underscore » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:22 pm

Cool, thanks. Is there anything special I need to tell them to get the right bolts? Or just cam bolts for a Celica?
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby Mafix » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:18 pm

just the year. don't even mention awd.
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby underscore » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:54 pm

Don't worry, I know not to confuse the poor parts guys.
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby aus jd 2703 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:49 pm

what offset are those enkei's as i thought we couldnt get gold in our offset +35?
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby underscore » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:52 pm

I'm assuming you mean mine? If so please see my project thread so we don't clutter up this thread.
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby mike325ci » Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:32 pm

I said this multiple times, but I prefer the Toyota OEM "crash bolts" over any aftermarket ones, because they are much thicker and stronger and can hold a lot more torque/force.

I think visually you can clearly see the difference: see my project thread, jump to this post:
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"3-dot" is the one that gives you the most adjustment and that's what I used to control my camber along with my camber/caster plates.

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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby Spectra1 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:16 pm

Or you could just get the MRT/Noltec camber castor plates and be able to adjust both at the same time without any drilling.

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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby CMS-GT4 » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:39 pm

On a related note, has anyone used their front caster plates on the rear?
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Re: Using camber plates as caster plates?

Postby underscore » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:49 pm

I doubt they'll fit, the bolt pattern is different isn't it?
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