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Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:20 pm

Hey guys, i'm not sure if i'm allowed too, but i thought it might be a useful information for some people.

This is my ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com.au/gt4-celica?_rdc=1

I have good quality / cheap coilovers.
They are made in Taiwan, not China. (big difference in quality)

The factory manufactures coilovers parts for Cusco and Selex suspensions in Canada as well.

All our coilovers are made to order. You can choose any setup:
camber tops for the rear (60aud a pair)
dual springs setup (10aud a set) ,
steel or aluminum mounts, and choose your own spring rate. free of charge.

I can provide any spare parts at a fair price.

I can provide pre assembled shocks inserts for 120aud+shipping per corner. When the time of rebuilding comes, you don't even need to send the old one back, you don't need to wait for them to come back. Just get the new ones in and enjoy. And it's cheaper than a Tein rebuilt.

We have coilovers for st165 st185. st162, st184, and for any application you may want. We can also make custom kits if you have all the dimensions free of charge.

Price is 1050aud shipped anywhere in the world.

Contact me via PM if anyone wants to discuss.

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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MWP » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:32 am

Alloy lower mount???
I wouldnt touch those with a 10ft pole! :shoots:

Ive seen many steel struts bend from a decent hit.
Alloy would just crack and cleanly break off = very bad!

Top mount plate also looks quite thin.
What diameter is the shock shaft?

BC's are only $200 more, and are well proven.
Why would anyone gamble with these.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:45 am

top plate is 6mm thick, same as aftermarket cusco plates.
shaft is 22mm

I always advise people that are racing to take the steel bottom mounts. There are no price difference between the two.

prices are in AUD. the standard kit is 970usd shipped.

and for 1120, you get rear camber plates, dual springs (like the tein SS) and your choice of spring rates.

EDIT: some people like aluminum mounts, and a few brands use them such as D2.

Maybe BC is 200$ more, but they don't offer a service as close to the customer as i do. And 200$ is not nothing.
I'm not trying to convince anybody, the coilovers are selling really good, and every customer is satisfied. I'm posting this especially for the people with st165 and st162. Since there isn't a lot of choice available. And for other people with custom applications.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MWP » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:22 am

Ok, interesting....

Offering dual springs is strange. I gather its a helper/tender spring.
Since the struts have both adjustable pre-load and height adjustment, why do you offer a dual spring option at all?

Do you have any shock dyno graphs showing range of adjustment (both compression and rebound)?
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:29 am

A ) Front :
1- Compression :
speed : 0.1m/s damping force : 80kgf
speed : 0.6m/s damping force : 180kgf
2- Tension :
speed : 0.1m/s damping force : 170kgf
speed : 0.6m/s damping force : 320kgf
B ) Rear :
1- Compression :
speed : 0.1m/s damping force : 60kgf
speed : 0.6m/s damping force : 160kgf
2- Tension :
speed : 0.1m/s damping force : 140kgf
speed : 0.6m/s damping force : 260kgf


The dual springs as nothing to do with the fact that the coilovers are height adjustable etc...

You have one small/soft spring on top of a longer/stiffer one. There is an adjustable transfer point between the two. When you drive in the city, only the small/soft spring compresses and gives a soft feel, and absorbs all the small vibrations etc...

Then if you corner hard, or brake hard, past a certain (adjustable) point of compression of the small spring, the stiffer spring takes over. It gives you the best of both worlds.

This is only good for people looking for a good quality ride + the advantage of stiffer springs. If you are after pure performance, go with single springs.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MWP » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:55 am

Ok, thanks for the answer on the dual springs.

The dampers are adjustable rate right?
Range of adjustment is important when using different spring rates which is why i asked about the dyno graphs.
Your table above doesnt really help answer this :(
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:56 am

Yes it's adjustable. What do you want to know exactly?
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MWP » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:31 am

What spring range they are capable of controlling.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:45 am

you can choose from 3.5 kg to 12kg. free of charge.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MWP » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:00 am

Ok, but that doesnt mean the damper/shock will control that range of springs properly.

In other brands, you need to pay >$500 per damper to have enough adjustability to do that.
Ive bought Koni racing dampers in the past at ~$700ea to handle a range of springs smaller than youve mentioned.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:20 am

i don't have the infos here, i will call the factory tomorrow and ask. But i guess if the range of springs suits the range of adjustment. Or they might valve them differently depending on the model.
You can look on the selexsuspension website see if there are some more infos.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:47 am

I just called them, the damping adjustment range is approximately 800N.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby highspeed » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:59 am

I would like to hear a review of these from someone that has tried them.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:25 am

I haven't install my kit yet.

All my customers were satisfied with the setup we sold them, (you can look at the feedback on my ebay) from street use to drift and track use. A few customers with who i talked a bit told me that they were really happy with the feel of the coilovers, and all the technical part.

Plus you have a 1 year warranty, if something goes wrong, you don't even need to send the old parts back, we will send you new ones.
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Re: Celica Coilovers

Postby MXP_57 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:16 am

I just got some new feedback from this guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9yLpDNqwOY

He bought a set for his track STI, and he loves them, he said they were brilliant. He went with 12kg and 10kg springs, and he just ordered me a set of 16kg and 14kg springs... We valved the coilovers to suit his stiff springs.
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