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Lower Ball Joint Clearance Problem on ST165 (ST205 Brakes)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:01 am
by Celica Turbo
Hello

I installed long time ago the ST205 front brakes on my ST165 without Brake Caliper Brakets. The Brake Discs are machined down to 302 mm in diameter. I installed a 4mm Spacer between Hub and Brake disc, and on the caliper we machined down 4mm to. Brake Disc is 100% in the middle.

But the Brake Discs touch the Lower Ball Joints.

Exists there any other options to get more clearance between Ball Joint and Brake Disc?

I think, others has/had the same problems with the ST205 Discs with Diamater ~300 mm.

Thanks for your help.

Celica Turbo

Re: Lower Ball Joint Clearance Problem on ST165 (ST205 Brake

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:10 pm
by zaluss
Celica Turbo wrote:Hello

I installed long time ago the ST205 front brakes on my ST165 without Brake Caliper Brakets. The Brake Discs are machined down to 302 mm in diameter. I installed a 4mm Spacer between Hub and Brake disc, and on the caliper we machined down 4mm to. Brake Disc is 100% in the middle.

But the Brake Discs touch the Lower Ball Joints.

Exists there any other options to get more clearance between Ball Joint and Brake Disc?

I think, others has/had the same problems with the ST205 Discs with Diamater ~300 mm.

Thanks for your help.

Celica Turbo


Looking at this thread it seems that redrilling is300 or is200 discs will work.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=20216&start=195

Let me know if that works for you as I'm also curious since the last person on the thread seems to have done it.

freddie wrote:My 165 has 205 calipers and discs on the rear. Front 205 Calipers with Lexus IS200 Discs. 165 Master cylinder and booster.
Technical help can be found on this site and I also had help thanks to fcZach.

Master Cylinder - pedal travels a bit more. (but I will be changing to a 205 master cylinder and booster soon)

Wheels - currently running 16x7.5 inch 3 piece with 30 offset. Yes on rear the calipers hit the inside of the wheel center,
so I run 25mm thick spacers. Clearance of rim to caliper (outwards) is about 15mm.

Re: Lower Ball Joint Clearance Problem on ST165 (ST205 Brake

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:56 am
by Celica Turbo
Hello

Thanks for your response.

My Problem is, that other Brake Discs from the IS200 or the IMPREZA are not be a option, because i allready installed some expensive front and rear brake Discs from ENDLESS Japan. And the Brake Discs are no longer available. I need to replace the rears too, if i install new ones on the front axle. The ENDLESS Brake Discs costed years ago about 1500 USD for front and rear.

Is there no one who makes aftermarked Ball Joints? I think i had seen someone in this Forum with Spherical Custom Ball Joints, but i can't find it anymore.

Or should i install a bigger Spacer between Brake Disc and Hub? 8mm?

But it fits al perfect now with the 4mm Spacer.

Any other ideas?

Thanks for your help.

Celica Turbo

Re: Lower Ball Joint Clearance Problem on ST165 (ST205 Brake

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 5:55 am
by underscore
You could try shaving down the joint a bit. Have they only recently started touching or have they always done this?

Re: Lower Ball Joint Clearance Problem on ST165 (ST205 Brake

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:06 am
by Celica Turbo
underscore wrote:You could try shaving down the joint a bit. Have they only recently started touching or have they always done this?


Hello

Shave down the Ball Joint is a option for sure.

The Brake discs touching the Ball Joint since i installed the ST205 Brake.

Celica Turbo