Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby tubasteve » Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:11 am

robolt wrote:You could turn the hub down to 60.1

Rav4 hub center 67.1mm vs 60.1 vs 54.1


The hub shows to be 62 on the rotor...
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby tubasteve » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:23 am

after reviewing my pictures...the rotors are 6MM thinner............
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:53 am

Tubasteve did you order the rears as well?

I am looking at is350 rotors. They are 333mm an cheap. I am just curious if I will run into offset issues with the rotor.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby tubasteve » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:34 am

Rears....I'm justgetting adapters cause I'll be running st 205... Just better cause I also want 30mm spacers. The fronts, if you want stock caliper, I'm looking at 2002 axis tl rotors...little to big around, but better than too small
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:40 pm

I decided that if I use the 185 spindle and rav4 hub I will likely use SVX rotors. I need to get the center bord machined down to 58 from 62 but they will be a cheap serviceable part. 28mm x 301mm discs. 2mm more shallow than 205 rotors. I am still holding out to see if I sell my 205 calipers for my final plan.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby tubasteve » Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:25 pm

I'm ding my hub swap tonight, using 205 brakes on my red, brembo on my black. I've have my hubs for months.....just not time.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby dragstang86 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:47 pm

So what was the final verdict? Rav4 hubs work on the front? Rav4 hubs with access holes drilled for the rear? Does it change the brake offset or anything? Will the same rotors, but re-drilled for 114.3 still work front and back?
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby tubasteve » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:02 pm

The rav4 front from a 97, rears on the rav4 are hub and bearing assembly. and it won't work for the rears.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby tubasteve » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:02 pm

dragstang86 wrote:So what was the final verdict? Rav4 hubs work on the front? Rav4 hubs with access holes drilled for the rear? Does it change the brake offset or anything? Will the same rotors, but re-drilled for 114.3 still work front and back?



There is a height difference from the front to rear hubs.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby dragstang86 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:49 pm

tubasteve wrote:The rav4 front from a 97, rears on the rav4 are hub and bearing assembly. and it won't work for the rears.


So using the 97 Rav4 front hubs on the front changes nothing at all but the bolt circle? Still same wheel bearing and brake offset?

Do the alltrac rear hubs have enough meat on them to be able to just redrill them for the 114.3 bolt circle? For that matter do the fronts have enough to do the same?
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:52 pm

The front do not. They would be right at the edge of the circle if redrilled. The rears are larger. The center bore will also change on the fronts. The rav4 wheels bearing and axle spline is the same, so based on the previous page it should be a direct swap. It might be cheaper for you to just get a rav4 spindle though and use its brakes. 302mm but thinner discs.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby dragstang86 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:28 am

CMS-GT4 wrote:The front do not. They would be right at the edge of the circle if redrilled. The rears are larger. The center bore will also change on the fronts. The rav4 wheels bearing and axle spline is the same, so based on the previous page it should be a direct swap. It might be cheaper for you to just get a rav4 spindle though and use its brakes. 302mm but thinner discs.


I already have a 6 piston Wilwood brake kit on the front that I want to keep. Do you know what the size difference is on the center bore of the Rav4 hub? Is it larger?
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby CMS-GT4 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:32 am

Its 62mm on the rav4, so you need to get your center bore enlarged.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby dragstang86 » Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:47 am

Ok, that shouldn't be a big deal then since they are just aluminum hats. Hopefully the outer diameter of the hub itself isn't too large for the hat but iirc the hat isn't very deep and with its shape I don't think it will be an issue.

So hopefully rav4 hubs on the front and redrill the rear and I'll be set. Is 97 the only year that Rav4's had the needed hubs? I'll just need to make up a rear Wilwood kit for it.
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Re: Hub Project to make us wheel options (5/100 to 114.3)

Postby lumbercis » Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:57 am

CMS-GT4 wrote: It might be cheaper for you to just get a rav4 spindle though and use its brakes. 302mm but thinner discs.


Does this just apply to the rears or to the fronts as well? I.e. can you use the whole rav4 spindle and brakes and just bolt them up to the front and rear?
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