Ok, here is the story. This is basically my solution to not being able to use a st185 aussie
downpipe and exhaust i ordered. If you havent read http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2136
saved_1992's write up then get to it, and read the enitre post because many questions can be
answered there.
I took a differnt path, not wanting to wait on a flange to arrive and generally just going with what i got.
Please understand I am not a mechanic nor jesus, so if you break or generally screw something up
i take no responsibility this is just a guide as to how i do it.
Parts list
Partneeded (what i used)
1-st185 turbo and manifold (jdm st185 ct26 ceramic)
2-Oil pipe gasket and coolant #15526-88380 #15471-88341 #16347-88340 (2)
3-st165 head-manifold gasket #17173-88380 x2 *TWO PEICE GASKET*
4-st185 turbo-manifold gasket # 17278-88381
5-st185 downpipe-turbo gasket # 17279-88381
6-st185/165 oil reutrn rubber hose 15491-88380
7-coupler to connect turbo-intercooler
8-3/8 and 1/4 id hose
9 1 1/16 (socket and wrench)
Removal
* bag and note system works well, get a ziplock bag fill it with subject oriented parts leave a note on it
close the bag.
*gunk liquid wrench works wonders for stuck parts
radiator fan
turbo
manifold
oilfilter
alternator
part one
Swap over oil lines, water lines with new gaskets. Now is a good chance to check
-wastegate operation
-clean parts
-axle play
-port and polish ?!?!
- change clutch fluid
part two
READ over saved_1992 write up
http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2136
after parts are cleaned and ready for test fit. Assemble the turbo/manifold and oil pipe and test fit assembly.
Most of your parts.
Cut pipe as shown to ease bending of bracket to mount in stock location
How i slightly bent oil cooler pipe
BEFORE
AFTER
Concerns:
Your primamry concern doing this is your oil return/feed pipe. It will not bolt right up. I have two solutions
-st165 pipe = bending
-st185 pipe =bending but eliminates oil cooler pipe
Option 1 using st165 pipe
You must cut the bracket that secures the oil feed line to the oil return line. Only cut it about a cm to allow
some freedom in moving the oil feed line around/bending. Now you must bend the first section of the oil feed line labled 2 in the diagram. This only takes a small bend to work. The only trick to this is that i cant explain exactly how to bend it. Your going to have to just do it. Take the turbo on/off with the pipe making slight adjustments until you get it to seat flush. I gound the surfaces slightly to help with gasket sealing.
Option 2 using st185 pipe
Same kind of deal excpet this requires more work. This requires bending of both feed and return pipes to clear the
wasgate arm, ac compressor and ultmately i didnt use it because i couldnt find a hose to lengthen the rubber oil return hose.
*st185 oil feed/return pipe*
*mounted with st185 pipe*
** Ive done both, so dont tell me it doesnt work. Option number 1 is alot less bending and remarkablly easier after doing option 2 **
Concer 2:
Your stock intercooler to turbo coupler will not work. This mod pushes the turbo a good 6-7 inches away from the mouth of the intercooler. A few soultions:
1 Cut the hose in half, insert metal pipe and clamps.
2 Get a silicone hose to fit
3 If u have a blowoff valve- Samco can make longer Those pipes but you have to get your dealer to specify to make each end longer 3cm. I contacted samco for this information. 935 no long deals with samco.
4 get a st185rc/st205 intercooler.
Slight port and polish
**I will keep updating this as i go, Feel free to ask quetions but again this is just a guide, and what i did your
vechicle may not be exaclty the same. **
UPDATE 1 as of march 23 06
For the non-believers here are some pics of my beautiful clearence
here is the oil cooler bolt on near the oil filter, and the wasgate arm lever
Here is the wastegate arm lever clearing the oil drain pipe
This picture demonstrates the cut previously mention to allow bending of the oil feed pipe
This is the turbo with the wasgate mounting position clearly shown.
downpipe and exhaust i ordered. If you havent read http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2136
saved_1992's write up then get to it, and read the enitre post because many questions can be
answered there.
I took a differnt path, not wanting to wait on a flange to arrive and generally just going with what i got.
Please understand I am not a mechanic nor jesus, so if you break or generally screw something up
i take no responsibility this is just a guide as to how i do it.
Parts list
Partneeded (what i used)
1-st185 turbo and manifold (jdm st185 ct26 ceramic)
2-Oil pipe gasket and coolant #15526-88380 #15471-88341 #16347-88340 (2)
3-st165 head-manifold gasket #17173-88380 x2 *TWO PEICE GASKET*
4-st185 turbo-manifold gasket # 17278-88381
5-st185 downpipe-turbo gasket # 17279-88381
6-st185/165 oil reutrn rubber hose 15491-88380
7-coupler to connect turbo-intercooler
8-3/8 and 1/4 id hose
9 1 1/16 (socket and wrench)
Removal
* bag and note system works well, get a ziplock bag fill it with subject oriented parts leave a note on it
close the bag.
*gunk liquid wrench works wonders for stuck parts
radiator fan
turbo
manifold
oilfilter
alternator
part one
Swap over oil lines, water lines with new gaskets. Now is a good chance to check
-wastegate operation
-clean parts
-axle play
-port and polish ?!?!
- change clutch fluid
part two
READ over saved_1992 write up
http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2136
after parts are cleaned and ready for test fit. Assemble the turbo/manifold and oil pipe and test fit assembly.
Most of your parts.
Cut pipe as shown to ease bending of bracket to mount in stock location
How i slightly bent oil cooler pipe
BEFORE
AFTER
Concerns:
Your primamry concern doing this is your oil return/feed pipe. It will not bolt right up. I have two solutions
-st165 pipe = bending
-st185 pipe =bending but eliminates oil cooler pipe
Option 1 using st165 pipe
You must cut the bracket that secures the oil feed line to the oil return line. Only cut it about a cm to allow
some freedom in moving the oil feed line around/bending. Now you must bend the first section of the oil feed line labled 2 in the diagram. This only takes a small bend to work. The only trick to this is that i cant explain exactly how to bend it. Your going to have to just do it. Take the turbo on/off with the pipe making slight adjustments until you get it to seat flush. I gound the surfaces slightly to help with gasket sealing.
Option 2 using st185 pipe
Same kind of deal excpet this requires more work. This requires bending of both feed and return pipes to clear the
wasgate arm, ac compressor and ultmately i didnt use it because i couldnt find a hose to lengthen the rubber oil return hose.
*st185 oil feed/return pipe*
*mounted with st185 pipe*
** Ive done both, so dont tell me it doesnt work. Option number 1 is alot less bending and remarkablly easier after doing option 2 **
Concer 2:
Your stock intercooler to turbo coupler will not work. This mod pushes the turbo a good 6-7 inches away from the mouth of the intercooler. A few soultions:
1 Cut the hose in half, insert metal pipe and clamps.
2 Get a silicone hose to fit
3 If u have a blowoff valve- Samco can make longer Those pipes but you have to get your dealer to specify to make each end longer 3cm. I contacted samco for this information. 935 no long deals with samco.
4 get a st185rc/st205 intercooler.
Slight port and polish
**I will keep updating this as i go, Feel free to ask quetions but again this is just a guide, and what i did your
vechicle may not be exaclty the same. **
UPDATE 1 as of march 23 06
For the non-believers here are some pics of my beautiful clearence
here is the oil cooler bolt on near the oil filter, and the wasgate arm lever
Here is the wastegate arm lever clearing the oil drain pipe
This picture demonstrates the cut previously mention to allow bending of the oil feed pipe
This is the turbo with the wasgate mounting position clearly shown.