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1990 Camry Alltrac

Postby creech_r » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:34 pm

I'm thinking about picking one up for decently cheap (~$900 with 130K miles on it) and was reading the driveline thread below. It got me thinking, I have a set of struts/drop springs from a narrow body ST185 sitting in my garage...would they work in the Camry? It already has TC rims, I think it'd look pretty good dropped and handle better with stiffer suspension.
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Postby creech_r » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:39 pm

alright, I think it's a 1989...but that shouldn't make a difference.
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Postby gt4rcdude » Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:04 am

No, you should tell me where it is so I can buy it.
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Postby creech_r » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:06 am

is that you just telling me that so I'll be less interested? or is that a serious "no they won't work on your alltrac."
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Postby phattyduck » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:55 pm

They'll work just fine. You might have to work out something for the front brake lines and use the little ST165 to ST185 strut adapter washers, but that's it.

The Alltrac Camry is about 100lbs lighter than the ST185 and about the same weight as an ST165.

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Postby creech_r » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:15 pm

Thanks! I will hopefully pick it up this weekend! Now, I think these are either 1" or .75" drop springs...that shouldn't cause an issue with the TC tires if I keep a low enough profile tire right? and I'm throwing stock sized steelies for snow tires so they should be fine. Also, I've never switched out suspension, it should be pretty straight forward since the springs are already mounted on the struts. Just bolt, unbolt and then take it in for an alignment, right?
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Postby creech_r » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:36 pm

it's mine now. Curious...how would I know if I need the spacers? and where exactly do they go... do they go in the holes the strut connects to the hub assembly?
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Postby creech_r » Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:11 am

i meant "washers" instead of "spacers" in the post above.
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Postby gt4rcdude » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:40 pm

creech_r wrote:is that you just telling me that so I'll be less interested? or is that a serious "no they won't work on your alltrac."


Nah, just kidding. I want a Camry alltrac.
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Postby creech_r » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:03 pm

mine is ok, the tc rims help it look less icky. The drop springs should help it out as well. The whole 1" lift or whatever it got with those rims makes it a little tall.
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Postby Captainkickass » Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:15 am

does the all trac tranny bolt up to the 3sgte? or would it be better to just run fwd?
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Postby creech_r » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:32 pm

From the research I've done, everything bolts in, including the awd tranny. The one thing I'm curious about is driveline wear and stressing. I know people have converted the camry alltrac's driveline to the various versions of the celica driveline, but will the st185/205/etc tranny mate nicely with the rest of the camry driveline? I don't know that one...

It's mostly the wiring that gets a little tricky. I've heard great things about Dr. Tweak though and will be going through him if I decide to do that swap (I'm also going to go through him for my 20v swap into my Celica ST at the beginning of next year).
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Postby phattyduck » Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:29 pm

The driveline swaps over no problem. The rear diff is the same P/N as the non-LSD rear diff on the Celica Alltrac/GT4. The manual trans is the same as the early ST165 (elec. locking center diff). One section of the driveshaft to the back of the car is about 2" longer... that's about it.

Wiring, as always, is the issue.

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