All Trac brakes vs GT4

jerod

New member
:D Hi guys, i was just wondering if the all trac brakes are the same as the GT4? on my 91, i have twin piston design for the front and single piston in the rear. Does the all trac have the same design or are my brakes jdm only.Thanks for the help,my rear brakes are shot(metal to metal) and i might as well do my fronts.Thanks again guys for any help.
 

l0ch0w

New member
All ST185 brakes are the same. the RC or CS brakes are no different.

If you want to upgrade, look at getting a set of ST205 brakes.
 

athousandleaves

New member
Some very early ST185's did receive the ST165 setup with the twin piston and 255mm rotor.
If you are trying to get parts tell them to look up the 165 and it will be perfect.
 

tubasteve

New member
didnt think the 91's got the old 165 setup, thought it was early 90 model only, huh...

anyway.
alltrac/rc/cs
279MM rotor

yours
"255mm"
 

underscore

Well-known member
athousandleaves":n3x4viz4 said:
Some very early ST185's did receive the ST165 setup with the twin piston and 255mm rotor.
If you are trying to get parts tell them to look up the 165 and it will be perfect.

are they noticeably smaller? my friends 185 narrowbody has visibly smaller brakes than me and we can't figure out what to replace them with.
 

athousandleaves

New member
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I think the 185 setup benefits mostly from a larger rotor used with the massive single 50mm piston caliper.

http://www.gtfours.co.uk/pics/brakes/brakes.htm
Go there for more pictures ^^^
 

jerod

New member
Thanks guys for your quick answers and pics :D So I have to order the st165 front brakes and st185 rear brakes or st165 rear brakes? Thanks again guys,THIS SITE IS AWSOME!!!! :notworthy:
 

athousandleaves

New member
Gary ST165":1u03v10s said:
Front
ST165/early ST185/JDM - 256mm x 25mm vented >54.1mm ID
ST185 - 277mm x 25mm vented >54.1mm ID
ST205 -315mm x 32mm vented >55.0mm ID

Rear
ST165/early ST185/JDM -269mm x 16 ?? mm solid >54.1mm ID
ST185 -288mm x 16 ?? mm solid >54.1mm ID
ST205 -315mm x 16mm vented >55.0mm ID
 

bmt

New member
Just to add to the confusion very early jdm St165s had a single piston front caliper as well!
 

tubasteve

New member
athousandleaves":38mj5mos said:
ST165/early ST185/JDM - 256mm x 25mm vented >54.1mm ID
ST185 - 277mm x 25mm vented >54.1mm ID
ST205 -315mm x 32mm vented >55.0mm ID


ST165/early ST185/JDM -269mm x 16 ?? mm solid >54.1mm ID
ST185 -288mm x 16 ?? mm solid >54.1mm ID
ST205 -315mm x 16mm vented >55.0mm ID

165 are 269x*10* 59.8 high
St185 are 288x*10mm* 60 mm high

Both solid

Quote its Gary's
 

eilie992

New member
Great info and good pics, but I need to make sure I'm understanding correctly. I have a 185 that I'm pretty sure is an early model with the 165 brakes and am looking to replace/upgrade. I've heard a lot of people say to upgrade from the single piston calipers of the late 185s to the 205s. If I've got the 165 brakes, can I still upgrade to a set of 205s or even the late 185s?
 

Corey

Active member
Yes. Same hub and Knuckle as the later spec 185. My car also had 165 front brakes and I've since upgraded to a ST185 aftermarket bbk.
 

fussellbug

New member
your most simple upgrade would be to buy later model ST185 calipers, brackets and rotors to replace your two piston setup. This will bolt up directly to your car with no additional modification. If you're looking to have dramatically improved braking, there are big brake kits available for varying costs or the St205 brakes can be fitted after making some modifications.
 
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