Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby lumbercis » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:19 am

Are there any H4 housings that work properly with HID bulbs? I.e. don't "spread light all over the place?"

I like Rene's setup here http://www.turbocelica.nl/pilotxenon.htm but not sure what kind of housings he's using.

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby underscore » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:40 pm

what you need for proper HID's (this is what comes in OEM cars):

1) bulb housings designed for HIDs
2) ballasts
3) the bulbs themselves
4) an auto-levelling system to adjust he lights as needed when you're on slopes

Now most people just slap ballasts and bulbs in normal housings, this is the worst because the light emitted from an HID is completely different from a normal bulb (this is what almost noone understands) and it gets shot all over the damn place. Half-decent is to take bulb housings out of the headlights of a OEM system, and mount them into whatever fits your vehicle. This at least gives you the correct control over the light, but you don't have the auto-levelling which prevents blinding people as you come over crests, etc.
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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby CMS-GT4 » Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:43 pm

I thought Rene was just using the oem euro housing.
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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby lumbercis » Wed Apr 04, 2012 2:50 pm

The Euro housing is H4 rather than H3/sealed?
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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby tubasteve » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:26 pm

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/lightpodinfo.htm


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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby underscore » Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:28 pm

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby WarTowels » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:30 pm

lumbercis wrote:The Euro housing is H4 rather than H3/sealed?


^ Correct.

They are made by Kioto.

Very similar to the hella e-codes I believe.

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby tubasteve » Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:52 pm

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby 4rsnduction » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:52 pm

would a dimond cut H4 housing like THIS work with HID's........work in a way that keeps the light scatter from blinding everyone
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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby ZeroDrift » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:55 pm

4rsnduction wrote:would a dimond cut H4 housing like THIS work with HID's........work in a way that keeps the light scatter from blinding everyone


No. Just because its a housing designed for a conventional H4 bulb does not make it suitable for any hid options.
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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby tubasteve » Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:51 am

It could work, but not advised.....

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby Boo_Guy » Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:22 pm

You need housings similar to the ones in the link;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8000K-HID-79-86 ... es&vxp=mtr
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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby ~CDUB~ » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:39 pm

Boo_Guy wrote:You need housings similar to the ones in the link;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8000K-HID-79-86 ... es&vxp=mtr



Those housings are junk i installed that exact kit into a ford probe and it glared very badly.

As a matter of fact I have yet to see any good headlights for our cars that utilize HIDs properly.

I've played around with lots of different options as i Have 5 cars. heres how i currently have them set up and aprox costs.

Mitsubishi Eclipse- Ebay projectors that i retrofitted oem acura TSX projectors in place of the low beam. (this is the proper way of converting to HID but took about 10hours of my own labour and over 500$ in parts)

94 celica GT-4 - Im running some cheap chinese 55w 8000k retro kits (just bulbs in reflector housings) for both low beams and fogs. (light output was vastly improved but glare is horrible i feel very bad for any drivers that meet me but its not my daily driver so its rare that the others are exposed) This is the cheapest route to go as it cost me less than 80$ shipped for the 4 hid kits.

91 celica gt-4 - this car has pop up headlights so its probably the best comparasion to a 165 headlights. for this car I changed out the stock sealed beams for some hella E codes and am running some 90/100 watt h4 bulbs. In order to run the higher wattage bulbs i had to wire a relay in order to handle the extra current from the higher wattage bulbs.

91 Mr2 - stock (light output sucks)

2012 mustang- cheap 35wat hid retro kit in stock housings. Again this isnt the best option as its putting a HID bulb in a headlamp desgined for a halogen bulb it does have some glare but not enough to bother me to go through the hassle of doing a proper retro like i did for my eclipse it is significatly brighter...

Id also like to brag about my light bar that I made to bolt onto the front of my st205 that consist of 4 6" round hella driving lights with 100W hids (obviously this is not road legal in any sense but Im pretty sure you could almost tan in front of the car with a total of 620watts of HID light going in front of the car.

you really get what you pay for when it comes to lighting...

Here is a pic i took as i was changing my st185 stock bulbs and headlights out.

(left side is stock right side is hella E code with 90/100w bulb hooked up to relay harness.) Most people think its HID but it really is just a standard halogen.) The picture also shows the difference between a LHD and a RHD beam pattern. This is your best option as it maintains a proper cut off line and would be about the same price as just throwing some HID h4 bulbs in. ( i payed 140 for the pair of ecodes 12$ for the bulbs and 30$ for the relay harness and wire)

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby Boo_Guy » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:33 am

~CDUB~ wrote:
Boo_Guy wrote:You need housings similar to the ones in the link;

http://www.ebay.com/itm/8000K-HID-79-86 ... es&vxp=mtr



Those housings are junk i installed that exact kit into a ford probe and it glared very badly.

As a matter of fact I have yet to see any good headlights for our cars that utilize HIDs properly.



Im hoping the ones I linked to on the first page work properly when it comes time for me to upgrade, unless someone comes up with a quad setup that keeps the flip up lights.

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Re: Headlights/spotties... what have you done?

Postby fussellbug » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:38 am

I tried to contact NeelTec through their website listed email address and got no reply. I also found them on facebook and sent a message through there and got a reply almost a month later as shown below. If anyone is interested in organizing a group buy, NeelTec can make the kits again, although they won't be cheap.

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