Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Suspension and other discussion

Re: THIS IS IMPORTANT

Postby Azonic » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:42 pm

jjpetek wrote:I think this might have been overlooked above. Under NO circumstance should you preload the sway bar. Adjustable links are not for preloading, and they do not adjust the bar stiffness. .... :smokes:


I have a real world issue/fault of getting adjustable links...

on the MR2 I raced, after several drops on the front....
I switched to a "new" adjustable end link provided as a prototype for testing...
They were good quality, strong, and nice and short....

However, they were too short!

Here is the issue with adjustable links, and links in general..
They affect the geometry of the sway bar, not ride height...
if the link are to short, under compression of the susspension,
the link can and will reverse...
if this happens on one side, talk about preload!!!!!!
on the MR2 if this happened on the driver side, it would also lock the steering in one direction... all very dangerous issues!!

After this happened a few times I figured out what it was...
made my own rod for the link at the correct length...
and live was fine!! but at that point, I never "adjusted them... EVER!

Preload of a sway bar with cause reduced roll to one side, while increasing the roll to the other..
It is a give and take....

The joy of adjustable links is making those "safe" adjustments as you mod the car.. lower and lower...
Members don't see the above ad. Register now - it's free!
1988 ST165
1990 F350
2002 VW Jetta TDI
2002 BMW K1200RS - Dakar Yellow!
and how many MR2's did I have? I forget..
Azonic
Club Member
 
Posts: 91
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:25 pm

Postby camry90 » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:41 am

who here has tried some RACINGBEAT ones? does it fit? mine doesn't seems to fit with my whiteline sway bar.(rear)
Image
camry90
Club Member
 
Posts: 442
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:59 am
Location: montreal, quebec

Postby 88st165 » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:24 am

Hmm be more specific on how it does not fit......

I have them on my white 165 with a whiteline swaybar and they fit just fine.
Red st165 - Garage Queen turned wannabe track rat
White st165 - slapping back together and hoping for the best
Black st165 - gone
2011 FA5 - Family Truckster
User avatar
88st165
Established Member
 
Posts: 2362
Images: 2
Joined: Sat May 14, 2005 4:09 pm
Location: Chicago, IL

Postby camry90 » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:00 am

88st165 wrote:Hmm be more specific on how it does not fit......

I have them on my white 165 with a whiteline swaybar and they fit just fine.


i will show pictures soon
Image
camry90
Club Member
 
Posts: 442
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:59 am
Location: montreal, quebec

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby Landon » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:30 pm

can i bring this thing back to life? i'm planning on getting a new rear whiteline sway bar and i want endlinks as well. however twos are us is pretty pricey with stainless steel. which racing beat miata ones work? all the links are dead. i want to get front and rear and would rather not have to do much fab right now. let me know what ya'll think. thanks.
White 1995 BMW M3
Black '90 st185 Sold :(
User avatar
Landon
Established Member
 
Posts: 1092
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:05 am
Location: Joseph, Oregon

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby 94 MR2 Turbo » Thu May 03, 2012 6:42 pm

I made my own.. Mcmastercar.com
94 MR2 Turbo
Club Member
 
Posts: 277
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:43 pm
Location: Frisco CA

Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby celigts » Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:57 pm

K I know this is off topic a little but would whiteline adjustable sway bar e links work on the front? My busy has some but don't know if they were for miata or they're universal.
91 Celica Alltrac - Parts pile pending instal :P
3SGTE project motor very slow
Intake/Heat shield project slowly moving
Winnipegs respected TTI forum. join and love the community will welcome you with open arms and legs ? http://toptierimports.com/
User avatar
celigts
Established Member
 
Posts: 1660
Images: 0
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:03 pm

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby michicop » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:01 pm

http://gt4-racing.eu/index.php/toyota-celica-st185

I hope this has not been posted before.
michicop
Club Member
 
Posts: 26
Joined: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:51 am

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby underscore » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:06 pm

celigts wrote:K I know this is off topic a little but would whiteline adjustable sway bar e links work on the front? My busy has some but don't know if they were for miata or they're universal.


Measure the max and min length between the bolts/holes on the RB ones, then compare that to the stock length?
★ 1991 GTFour RC ~ "Rebel Scum" ★
It's for sale! http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=52181
Build thread http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=44216
underscore
GTFour God
 
Posts: 3819
Images: 0
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:29 pm
Location: Kelowna, BC

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby CMS-GT4 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 8:26 pm

I have had the racing beat ones for a decade. I am not sure what designs they use now. I could see making your own for less, and with more adjustment from Mcmaster parts.
Coldiron
92 st185 (205 swap) | 03 350Z Track (sold) | 13 Pilot | 17 Mazda3
www.noritoy.com | noritoy.deviantart.com | http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=19891
User avatar
CMS-GT4
GTSilver Member
 
Posts: 10345
Images: 7
Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:12 pm
Location: St Louis Area (IL)

1992 Toyota Celica

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby FabZ » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:59 pm

anybody knows if two R us is still alive? I've been trying to buy a set of endlink for over a week but they dont accept my paypal nor my canadian credit card.. so i sent them two emails.. but never got a reply...

i might build my own from mcmaster carr if they dont answer.. but if i remember, if i wanted full stainless it was cheaper to buy the two R us..
User avatar
FabZ
Club Member
 
Posts: 92
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:28 pm
Location: Montreal, Qc

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby Corey » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:08 pm

Their home page says they had a closure from Nov 28th to Dec 18 ?

I have their end links. I had to shorten them (grind off ~1cm of the threaded rod) in order to use the Whiteline swaybar on the hardest setting.

Also, make sure to use a torque wrench on the nuts. The shop I was at had a special low profile torque wrench which could fit into the tight spaces. If the torque is too low, they will back off and the endlink/swaybar will start binding with the struts as the suspension compresses = knocking noises.

The OEM torque is 47 ftlbs.
Image
User avatar
Corey
GTFour God
 
Posts: 4123
Images: 50
Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:12 am

1989 Toyota Celica

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby klue » Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:23 pm

FabZ wrote:anybody knows if two R us is still alive? I've been trying to buy a set of endlink for over a week but they dont accept my paypal nor my canadian credit card.. so i sent them two emails.. but never got a reply...

i might build my own from mcmaster carr if they dont answer.. but if i remember, if i wanted full stainless it was cheaper to buy the two R us..



I can offer you the same endlinks twos r us uses, and accept your canadian funds :P

Great product, I recommend the SS to avoid corrosion issues if you drive in the winter months
facebook.com/xiiimotorsports
#xiiimotorsports ON instagram
User avatar
klue
GTFour God
 
Posts: 3893
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:47 pm
Location: Greater Toronto Area

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby FabZ » Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:43 pm

@corey, oh didnt see that.. i'll wait. thks for the torque spec. i dont know if i'll need to shorten it though since i'm pretty low on coilovers and the oem end links are too short now.. :P

@Klue. i'm not driving the car during winter but i'd still like them full SS. Can you tell me more about your endlinks in PM please? :)
User avatar
FabZ
Club Member
 
Posts: 92
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:28 pm
Location: Montreal, Qc

Re: Rear Swaybar Endlinks Upgrade?

Postby Mafix » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:27 pm

unless clearence is an issue, there is no difference between a 10 foot long end link and a 10mm long one. research guys. so much horrid info in this thread.
Mafix
Gold Member
 
Posts: 5877
Joined: Tue Aug 10, 2004 10:56 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Handling and Braking

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest