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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby DeeCee » Mon Mar 04, 2013 6:47 am

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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby athousandleaves » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:36 am

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I presently have 25mm spacers on the rear and have 10mm's to put on at the front but need longer studs before I can put them on.

The 1480/1505 track difference feels very RWD biased.
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Re: OKC Project - 2/7 Update of progress w/ pic of a big gar

Postby Hotrodhendrix » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:47 pm

toayoztan wrote: I waned bronze/gold wheels, but I got a pretty good deal on these.
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Well looks like the wife is now wanting me to finish her alltrac to sell it and purchase her an old vert car. Most likely late 60s mustang... Blah. If so I will stick with the stock wheels it has on it and sale off the Bronze Oz rally ultralaggeras I picked up for it. They are 18x8 though.
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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby toayoztan » Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:47 am

Thanks, I'll have to read up more about the track width differences.

James, that sucks to hear about your wife wanting to get a different car, but like I said in your thread, variety can be nice. I like all kinds of cars, so american muscle can be fun too.

I thought about 18's, but I've never personally wanted anything larger than 17's at the moment. Those rims do look good though!


I had a question for anyone that's extensively taken apart the front end of the car.

I reattached the hood latch/bracket, the upper support bar, headlight brackets, etc. I noticed there was a bit of "wiggle" room with all of these items. When bolting up the fenders and front bumper in place, did you find it difficult to align everything, or did it seem to pretty much all fall in place? I've kind of "half tightened" everything down, but am reluctant to completely tighten it all down as there is too much "unknown" at this point with the alignment until I put the fender, hood, and front bumper on, I feel like.

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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby CSAlltrac » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:11 pm

As far as structural stuff goes, eyeball that as straight as possible. Maybe come up with a way to tram measure to get as close as possible. Take a piece of string or something similar, measure from your passenger hood hinge bolt(the one on the car, not hinge to hood)to your drivers front core support, a headlight bolt hole or something else in that area. Then take that exact length measured and go from the drivers hood hinge(same hole/bolt that's parallel to the one you used) and go to the opposite front core support bolt. Measuring in an "X". Get that as square as possible and tighten. Any other voids you can make up in the sheet metal. If its confusing just shoot me a text or call, Ill help ya out
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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby toayoztan » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:59 pm

CSAlltrac wrote:As far as structural stuff goes, eyeball that as straight as possible. Maybe come up with a way to tram measure to get as close as possible. Take a piece of string or something similar, measure from your passenger hood hinge bolt(the one on the car, not hinge to hood)to your drivers front core support, a headlight bolt hole or something else in that area. Then take that exact length measured and go from the drivers hood hinge(same hole/bolt that's parallel to the one you used) and go to the opposite front core support bolt. Measuring in an "X". Get that as square as possible and tighten. Any other voids you can make up in the sheet metal. If its confusing just shoot me a text or call, Ill help ya out


Oh yeah, I remember you know this stuff lol.

I'll definitely be hitting you up soon.

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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby CSAlltrac » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:07 am

Where you at Bryan? Need my fix of your car!
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Re: OKC Project - 2/21 Preview of my wheels, pg 29

Postby toayoztan » Fri Apr 12, 2013 4:45 am

CSAlltrac wrote:Where you at Bryan? Need my fix of your car!


Here you go! (still not for sale :P )

These were taken with my S3 phone. Didn't have my camera on me, b/c I quickly test fitted these. I'm in the process of closing on a house and moving, so garage is kind of a mess.

It goes RIGHT to the edge of the fender, give 1mm or so it looks like. I can't really judge though until I get it off jack stands (still working on the brake lines - bought a better flaring tool). Will I have to roll my fenders? Don't know, but I don't plan on tucking or anything, of course. I want to keep this as much of a functional set up as I can while looking good.

What do you guys think?

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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby ALLensTRAC » Fri Apr 12, 2013 11:15 am

Looking great with those wheels Bryan!!!! You can't go wrong with RPF1's. It looks as though a roll will be required unless you're going to run a decent amount of camber or keep the drop conservative. Honestly I would roll it just a bit to be safe. That way you don't ruin those new tires.

BTW why didn't you rebuild the rear CV axles and paint them? Just curious considering everything else is so clean. Keep the updates coming we all love your car!!!!
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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby toayoztan » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:31 pm

ALLensTRAC wrote:Looking great with those wheels Bryan!!!! You can't go wrong with RPF1's. It looks as though a roll will be required unless you're going to run a decent amount of camber or keep the drop conservative. Honestly I would roll it just a bit to be safe. That way you don't ruin those new tires.

BTW why didn't you rebuild the rear CV axles and paint them? Just curious considering everything else is so clean. Keep the updates coming we all love your car!!!!


Thanks! I was going to keep the drop conservative. I can't tell, but it looks as though even if I rolled the fenders, the whole set up is sticking out past the fender by a margin, so it'd still hit. If that's the case, I may have to reduce the wheel spacer and get new ones. I'll see what happens when I take the car off jack stands.

Oh, those CV axles are just there for protecting the wheel bearings under load if I roll the chassis around (that's what everyone says to do, anyway).

The underside of the car is actually kind of "dirty" with water spots after rinsing the car off and some dust lol.

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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby ALLensTRAC » Fri Apr 12, 2013 12:50 pm

You know you're probably right about the spacers. On my setup I used 25mm and they are out about 5mm. I was planning on getting 20mm instead. That would probably put you right where you need to be with just a little roll for protection. I can see why you don't want to roll them with the new paint.

Oh and when referring to your car "dirty" is definitely a relative term lol!! I meant to ask you I am in the process of cleaning the underside for POR application, did you use a pressure washer to spray it down after the marine clean? Any suggestions for doing this would be most appreciative! It seems like its taking forever to get the gunk off ugh!!!!
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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby CMS-GT4 » Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:14 pm

The rears got to be rolled no matter what. People even roll with 8" wheels and smaller tires. You can't judge the angle of the wheel with the suspension hanging down like that. The camber change at that height makes it appear like its much closer than it should be.
I run the same size except 38et and there is still at least 10mm between the tire and the fender. Unless something is unknown about your setup, this should be no problem once your rolled.
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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby toayoztan » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:02 pm

Thanks for the comments guys.

I will probably end up rolling the fenders. I honestly don't care much about the new paint (the car can always get repainted). I just don't want to damage the quarter panel with creases, etc. I've seen very horrible jobs before when people are going too fast or not using heat. I am still kicking myself for not rolling the fenders ahead of time (it was something I completely overlooked during the body job) :doh:

I think you're right though, I do need to drop the car to get an accurate read on my camber, etc.

As far as the POR15, after getting ALL of the oil/dirt/etc off (I left the original factory/dealer option undercoat on, as the underside wasn't really that rusty on my car, so I didn't feel there'd be any rust under the stock coating), I sprayed it down with marine clean, then I just used a hose, that's all. Then let it dry. You can use a heat gun or whatever if you want it to dry faster. But yeah, you don't need a pressure washer, just get under and use a hose. You'll get wet, but if you're on a creeper, it helps.

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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby toayoztan » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:19 pm

Okay, so what's a good fender roller?

I like Eastwood products. However, their fender roller is 250 dollars. Yikes!

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Re: OKC Project - 4/12 - Rear wheel mounted...thoughts??

Postby athousandleaves » Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:27 pm

Check your local classisfied's/craigslsist before buying anything.
Around here I always see people looking to rent their rollers.
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