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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:27 pm

Got her running this morning for the first time in 10? years. Gotta loud tick/knock video to come when I charge my phone.

Gonna start cracking beers.
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:25 pm

Getting new diagnostic codes now...

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52
54

Probably going to be on the hunt for a throttle position sensor, ic pump... Knock sensor is probably working judging from the noises I'm getting.
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby brutekiller787 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:44 pm

a new intercooler pump for a code 54, did you check coolant level, or the wires coming from the intercooler first? and a code 52 does not mean your knock sensor is faulty, it means there is a circuit failure. i would start looking at other things before just throwing parts at it. including tps
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:51 pm

Yeah intercooler is full. Wires are present and connected, but I haven't taken a meter to them yet.

I'll have to research the knock sensor. Would I not get a code if the engine is knocking? Or only if there's something wrong with the sensor?

After I got it started the first time the idle smoothed out, maybe I should just reset codes and see what comes back. Maybe tps was complaining while it was cranking on it before.
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:52 pm

Ugh drivers window decided it doesn't want to go back up now...
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby Awesome-Trac » Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:34 pm

sinerasis wrote:Yeah intercooler is full. Wires are present and connected, but I haven't taken a meter to them yet.

I'll have to research the knock sensor. Would I not get a code if the engine is knocking? Or only if there's something wrong with the sensor?

After I got it started the first time the idle smoothed out, maybe I should just reset codes and see what comes back. Maybe tps was complaining while it was cranking on it before.



my old 165 had a terrible knock but yet never go that code
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby brutekiller787 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:03 am

knock control is dealt with behind the curtains of the ecu. a fault code is only tripped when the ecu sees something other than what it wants to see, and what it believes it should see from the knock sensor. a short to ground, the most common, would cause the ecu to see nothing, setting a code 52. a faulty knock sensor would also set the code, however, as long as the ecu is seeing something, the code is not set. i have a gm knock sensor from a 2.2 sunfire and i do not have a code 52.
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:38 pm

Here's a quick video of the knock, warning: it's pretty brutal to listen to... http://youtu.be/dGFbdjEkEPw
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby CSAlltrac » Sun Sep 01, 2013 3:29 am

She sounds hurt :( Time to pull it!
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:33 pm

Got another note on the car asking to sell... still a big no.
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:03 pm

Poor girl!! She sounds like she is in pain. Save her!!!
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:09 pm

Yep. Trying to schedule time that syncs up with weather... any time now.
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby Awesome-Trac » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:55 am

Damn that sounds brings back sad memories of my old trac
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:12 am

Took time today to pull the oil pan and have a looksie.

When in doubt... RTV the shit out of it... :shrug:
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I really don't know why this much silicone crap was deemed necessary... oh well it's all gone now. It was simply splooged on top of a torn up OEM cork gasket. :nono:
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Well, there's your problem!
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#1 rod bearing is in very bad shape.

Here's what it looked like right after I got it out... it has seen better days for sure:
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#4 had a tiny bit of play, here's a comparison that really shows had bad #1 is:
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They're all getting replaced obviously. I need to get a caliper to measure the crank though.

Also took off the intake to look at the turbo. It's got a couple chips, but no play at all. I picked up a Supra CT26 that I'm thinking of upgrading, so hopefully I can use the existing turbo until that gets done (way down the line).
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Re: Jeff's 1989 Black ST165

Postby sinerasis » Mon May 12, 2014 3:53 pm

There are good weekends and bad weekends...

I started pulling the engine on Saturday. I had the cross members out already so it was mostly just disconnecting wires and hoses from the top. I pressure washed the cross members also. They're nice and clean now.

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I'm fairly sure the AC is destroyed in this car. The condenser looks like crap and one of the hard lines is broken. I'm betting the only part of the system that is any good is the compressor. I need to decide if I want to keep AC or not. I'm very on the fence about that. Keeping it keeps the car factory and will be expensive I'm sure, but removing makes it simpler. If I go simple I'll probably want to do simple other places too... thinking on it for the time being.

The radiator will need to be replaced. Top cap is super brittle.

Noticed the passenger motor mount is held in by two bolts wedged into either side. Yay for crawling around underneath this thing! :withstupid:

Realized when I cleaned out the spare tire well over a year ago didn't think and put the plugs back in so half way through the day I found the well full of water and wet carpet. Got a leak somewhere. I cleaned it up (again) and made a point to leave the plugs out like I should have done last time. I got everything dried out with the good weather. Need to research all the seals in the back. Bumping this up the priority list.

I got the engine to the point where I was working to get the axles out when I realized I didn't have my hex bit drivers so I called it quits for the day. Kinda needed to walk away at that point.

Worked on tearing down the extra bottom end I got from Xander_42. The crank looks good, so I think I can bypass getting a crank machined. Yay! Just need to order new bearings and I think I'll have the bottom end in good shape.
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