Project - 205/TDO6/HALTECH ST165 - The Saga Continues

GT4_DRED

New member
Cant believe it's been a year since I've updated this thread, so just posting some updates regarding the car. The goal was to turn this car into the AllTrac I've always wanted, and as you can see that takes time. I had an opportunity to pick up another 165 that was already pretty much what I wanted this car to be, not to mention it was a single owner car with quite a bit of history. With that said, this car has since been passed on to a close friend here on the forum who will continue developing the car; he'll create a build page to consolidate all this. I'm currently working to complete this car, although the build is now a bit more realistic and practical (still 3rd gen).

I've spent the last few months building the motor, head and turbo system as time has allowed. Here's a summary of the progress:

* 3rd gen head was refreshed with new valve seals, Engle springs and held down with ARP head studs
* 3rd gen block was hot tanked, honed, Eagle rods and Arais pistons (86mm) installed with ACL main and rod bearings
* New oil pump, water pump, thermostat, timing belt & tensioner, seals (mains, cams, etc...), all new gaskets (including 3rd gen head gasket)
* Holset HY35 was upgraded from a 54mm comp wheel to a 60mm HX40 wheel (still 9cm turb. hsg)
* Fabbed wastegate adapter to still run oem manifold heatshield

I'm sure there is some other things I'm forgetting, but I'm definately grateful that the car came with a full 3rd gen engine rebuild kit. Just need to put the engine on a cradle and install the flywheel/clutch/tranny and then focus on getting her back in the car. from there it's just re-installing the engine harness (with a slight tuck) and re-tuning the Haltech for E85. Still need to install the fuel rail and injectors (1000cc). Anyway, here are a lot of pics of the progress:

How she currently sits..
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Head prepped for re-assembly
2012-03-20_08-00-56_827.jpg


2012-03-20_07-53-45_568.jpg



2012-03-20_07-55-30_338.jpg


I was able to move the shims around (bottom right), in order to keep in the center of the tolerances
2012-03-20_07-54-03_521.jpg


Bare block after hot-tank and hone; they actually chased all the bolt holes at no additional cost
2012-04-06_21-11-54_246.jpg


Dont you just love squirters :D
2012-03-29_17-44-27_369.jpg


Installed
2012-04-06_21-15-00_913.jpg


Crank installed and main torqued
2012-03-29_16-41-16_457.jpg


2012-03-29_16-34-55_952.jpg


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Checking ring-gap after filing the rings; gap set to .020
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Ready to install the rings and drop them in the bore
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It's a shame these will be hidden by the head :(
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ARP studs installed
2012-04-13_21-21-13_172.jpg


2012-04-13_21-22-19_137.jpg


Rod caps torqued down. I'm using Permatex Assembly Lube if anyones wondering (very sticky)
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Suction tube and windage tray installedAint she purdy? :D
2012-05-03_20-07-31_741.jpg


Upper oil pan installed
2012-05-03_21-35-40_110.jpg


Lower oil pan installed
2012-05-12_22-36-01_482.jpg


2012-05-12_22-33-58_338.jpg


2012-05-12_22-37-11_656.jpg


Head back together. I used Redline assembly lube to keep the keepers on the valve stems (worked well)
2012-05-21_21-36-52_219.jpg


Cut my finger on the corner of the head and bled all over it.. J/K it the Permatex assembly lube :p
2012-05-21_22-19-57_991.jpg


Cams/gears installed and torqued
2012-05-21_23-55-44_560.jpg


Running stock 3rd gen cams for now, but we may pick up some additional HP by playing with them on the dyno.
I have a set of new GSC 268s on the shelf just in case
:D
2012-05-21_23-56-08_151.jpg


Turbo is a Holset HY35/40 (9cm hsg). I'm very curious how it will spool and perform mid-range and up top
2012-03-20_07-49-58_401.jpg


2012-03-20_07-50-55_138.jpg


The owner wanted a stock'ish look, so I'm fabbing the wastgate lacation to keep the OE heatshield
2012-04-05_21-14-43_518.jpg


2012-04-05_21-10-11_312.jpg


2012-04-05_21-09-59_41.jpg


Came out pretty good. It'll be open vent..
2012-04-05_21-08-58_140.jpg


2012-04-05_21-09-13_524.jpg


Gotta fab up the 3" downpipe and w/g dump tube; almost there
2012-05-25_23-21-41_731.jpg


2012-05-25_23-21-19_254.jpg


2012-05-25_23-19-58_473.jpg


A few things left to install

Re-plenum Manifold (Q45 tb)
2012-03-20_08-01-49_884.jpg


Competition Clutch Stg-4 kit w/ Flywheel (steel)
2012-03-20_22-25-31_836.jpg


T-Netics intercooler (garrett core)
2012-03-20_22-22-45_976.jpg
 

GT4_DRED

New member
Wow! Just shy of 2 years since my last update; doesn't seem that long. Well I was able to really enjoy the white 165 last summer, so I committed to myself not to touch it again until this car is completed. I've been doing a little here and there since this Spring and have really had time to get a good amount done in the last month or so. Below is a list of what I was able to get done in the last few months:
  • drop the old 3rd gen shortblock/tranny
  • remove and clean/paint tranny
  • delete battery tray and pressure clean/paint the engine bay
  • Install L/W flywheel and clutch kit
  • bolt tranny to engine (what a pita!)
  • install fuel rail/injectors (880cc)/-6an lines
  • swap cam gears (gold to blue)
  • fab throttle cable bracket on intake plenum and re-drill Q45 flange for mustang TB
  • re-angle wastegate to clear alternator (it cleared the alt itself but not the harness plug; I hated to move it!
  • fab downpipe and dump tube
  • fab bracket for OE heatshield
  • laid out harness in prep for the wire tuck

I'm sure there's more, but that's the bulk of it. My goal is to finish the car withing the next 30 days and have both cars ready for the tentative Dragon run this fall.. The major stuff left is to convert the steering rack to manual, re-run/tuck the harness, install engine/tranny, build the mid/rear exhaust sytem, fab intercooler/piping.. Anyway on to the pics..

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Got the battery tray removed; the air chisel mode quick work of it!
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Years of caked on dirt/grime pre-soaked in Simply Amazing; that stuff is, well, simply amazing!
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Power-washed/painted
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Big difference!
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Ready for the engine..
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Tranny after soaking in SA (Simply Amazing) and a power-wash. That stuff is $1 a bottle at the Dollar Store and I usually clean them out. It's just as good as Purple Power imho.
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After 2 years, she's coming of the engine stand!
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I was a bit nervous.. easy does it..
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Clutch setup installed (CM L/W flywheel and ACT 6 puck sprung)
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Getting ready to mount the tranny to the block
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Mounted and ready to go!
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Next was the fuel rail. I wanted the lines somewhat hidden and in/out on the drivers side for a direct run to the FPR.
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The rail is drilled for 11mm injectors, so I'm running 14mm to 11mm hats in order to run 14mm injectors. You can see them between the rail and the injectors
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Finally it was time to fab the throttle cable bracket, down pipe and dump tube. I know I keep saying it, but I really need a TIG! they're just so pricey, but I'm gonna bit the bullet soon.
Throttle cable bracket ready to be welded; had to use a buddy's TIG to weld it up

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Here you can see how the oil-drain was routed. The dp will be wrapped and the oil line in a heat sleeve as well.
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All welded up.. I decided to add a flex on the dp vs. the midpipe
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final step was to add the o2 bungs
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Finally finished. The owner wanted a clean "stock'ish" look, so I'm pretty happy with the outcome. I'm looking forward to laying out the intercooler piping and semi-tucking the wiring.
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Turbo is a Holset hy35 w/hx40 comp wheel. The 9cm hsg should spool really well and the hx40 wheel should make good pump gas pwr
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msanders2

New member
Great job buddy! Car is looking amazing. I didn't know you got all this work done recently. Last time I was over the engine was still on the stand turboless
 

GT4_DRED

New member
msanders2":1h66xax3 said:
Great job buddy! Car is looking amazing. I didn't know you got all this work done recently. Last time I was over the engine was still on the stand turboless
Yeah, I've been heads down working on it while I have the time. I'm working on extending the harness now in prep for the tuck, but you'll see the progress next time you stop in. Trying to get both cars ready for the Fall run in the mountains. How's Cornbeef coming along?



zaluss":1h66xax3 said:
Need more info on those wilwood brakes! :D
It's the Rocketeer kit that was sold by 935Motorsport a while back. I'll eventually get around to copying the brackets and posting the rotor/hats specs for anyone that want to put a set together. it's a simple setup as far as the caliper and adapters are concerned, but the hats/rotors are a bit hard to find. should be easy to duplicate once the offsets are known. They're currently on the white car btw.
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msanders2

New member
Sold the Orange 77 so I got the money to finish Cornbeef (I think lol as long as there are no suprises) I'm currently working on my Brown 77 Celica and finishing up moving into my new house. I'm about to start ordering parts for Cornbeef though. I got the Walbro, I need a Clutch (the tranny from you), Ko downpipe, wiregap harness, wheel bearings, (mid pipe??) And some odds and ends. I also hope to have it ready before the Dragon meet.
 

CMS-GT4

Active member
So where are these specs for the wilwood kit? Do you have drawing of the brackets or did you do it Jig style?
 

GT4_DRED

New member
CMS-GT4":2jeoa0ka said:
So where are these specs for the wilwood kit? Do you have drawing of the brackets or did you do it Jig style?
My plan is to measure the offset of the hats and go with a different rotor, as the current bolt pattern is hard to find. The hats were made by precision brakes who are no longer in business, so it makes sense to find a new solution. The calipers have the willwood p/n on them and the brackets are easy enough to duplicate. Once I have the time I'll measure everything and put the info out there..
 

CMS-GT4

Active member
I misread it. I thought you already did. It. Shame about the rotors and hats. I wonder if the rotor rings are just a wilwood part and the hats are the only true custom part. They could be very well just wilwood blank hats that they machined and stamped.
 

GT4_DRED

New member
Got some additional work done on the car and was able to complete the extending of the main harness. Once the harness was completed I ran and tucked the engine harness to the motor prior to dropping the engine in.
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Once the engine was in I then fed the lot through the firewall and into the cabin. All this to avoid running it out the firewall and across the engine bay. Instead it'll run under the dash > out the driver side fender > to the main fuse box in the engine bay. The engine harness from the haltech is mainly all that comes out the firewall now.
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From there I installed the fuel pressure regulator and connected the lines (-6 feed / -4 return) and ran the throttle cable behind the manifold and to the TB.
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I'll tackle the intercooler, piping, and exhaust next. I'll save the other end of the harness for later, as I only mess with wiring because I have to..
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Awesome-Trac

New member
GT4_DRED":lpvpm3rz said:
Cant believe it's been a year since I've updated this thread, so just posting some updates regarding the car. The goal was to turn this car into the AllTrac I've always wanted, and as you can see that takes time. I had an opportunity to pick up another 165 that was already pretty much what I wanted this car to be, not to mention it was a single owner car with quite a bit of history. With that said, this car has since been passed on to a close friend here on the forum who will continue developing the car; he'll create a build page to consolidate all this. I'm currently working to complete this car, although the build is now a bit more realistic and practical (still 3rd gen).

I've spent the last few months building the motor, head and turbo system as time has allowed. Here's a summary of the progress:

* 3rd gen head was refreshed with new valve seals, Engle springs and held down with ARP head studs
* 3rd gen block was hot tanked, honed, Eagle rods and Arais pistons (86mm) installed with ACL main and rod bearings
* New oil pump, water pump, thermostat, timing belt & tensioner, seals (mains, cams, etc...), all new gaskets (including 3rd gen head gasket)
* Holset HY35 was upgraded from a 54mm comp wheel to a 60mm HX40 wheel (still 9cm turb. hsg)
* Fabbed wastegate adapter to still run oem manifold heatshield

I'm sure there is some other things I'm forgetting, but I'm definately grateful that the car came with a full 3rd gen engine rebuild kit. Just need to put the engine on a cradle and install the flywheel/clutch/tranny and then focus on getting her back in the car. from there it's just re-installing the engine harness (with a slight tuck) and re-tuning the Haltech for E85. Still need to install the fuel rail and injectors (1000cc). Anyway, here are a lot of pics of the progress:

How she currently sits..
2012-07-15_19-52-16_842.jpg


2012-07-15_19-52-55_390.jpg


Head prepped for re-assembly
2012-03-20_08-00-56_827.jpg


2012-03-20_07-53-45_568.jpg



2012-03-20_07-55-30_338.jpg


I was able to move the shims around (bottom right), in order to keep in the center of the tolerances
2012-03-20_07-54-03_521.jpg


Bare block after hot-tank and hone; they actually chased all the bolt holes at no additional cost
2012-04-06_21-11-54_246.jpg


Dont you just love squirters :D
2012-03-29_17-44-27_369.jpg


Installed
2012-04-06_21-15-00_913.jpg


Crank installed and main torqued
2012-03-29_16-41-16_457.jpg


2012-03-29_16-34-55_952.jpg


2012-03-29_16-39-52_672.jpg


Checking ring-gap after filing the rings; gap set to .020
2012-04-09_19-35-23_938.jpg


Ready to install the rings and drop them in the bore
2012-04-09_21-21-26_211.jpg


2012-04-09_21-17-10_99.jpg


It's a shame these will be hidden by the head :(
2012-04-13_21-01-29_416.jpg


ARP studs installed
2012-04-13_21-21-13_172.jpg


2012-04-13_21-22-19_137.jpg


Rod caps torqued down. I'm using Permatex Assembly Lube if anyones wondering (very sticky)
2012-04-13_21-23-53_734.jpg



2012-04-13_21-25-01_640.jpg


Suction tube and windage tray installedAint she purdy? :D
2012-05-03_20-07-31_741.jpg


Upper oil pan installed
2012-05-03_21-35-40_110.jpg


Lower oil pan installed
2012-05-12_22-36-01_482.jpg


2012-05-12_22-33-58_338.jpg


2012-05-12_22-37-11_656.jpg


Head back together. I used Redline assembly lube to keep the keepers on the valve stems (worked well)
2012-05-21_21-36-52_219.jpg


Cut my finger on the corner of the head and bled all over it.. J/K it the Permatex assembly lube :p
2012-05-21_22-19-57_991.jpg


Cams/gears installed and torqued
2012-05-21_23-55-44_560.jpg


Running stock 3rd gen cams for now, but we may pick up some additional HP by playing with them on the dyno.
I have a set of new GSC 268s on the shelf just in case
:D
2012-05-21_23-56-08_151.jpg


Turbo is a Holset HY35/40 (9cm hsg). I'm very curious how it will spool and perform mid-range and up top
2012-03-20_07-49-58_401.jpg


2012-03-20_07-50-55_138.jpg


The owner wanted a stock'ish look, so I'm fabbing the wastgate lacation to keep the OE heatshield
2012-04-05_21-14-43_518.jpg


2012-04-05_21-10-11_312.jpg


2012-04-05_21-09-59_41.jpg


Came out pretty good. It'll be open vent..
2012-04-05_21-08-58_140.jpg


2012-04-05_21-09-13_524.jpg


Gotta fab up the 3" downpipe and w/g dump tube; almost there
2012-05-25_23-21-41_731.jpg


2012-05-25_23-21-19_254.jpg


2012-05-25_23-19-58_473.jpg


A few things left to install

Re-plenum Manifold (Q45 tb)
2012-03-20_08-01-49_884.jpg


Competition Clutch Stg-4 kit w/ Flywheel (steel)
2012-03-20_22-25-31_836.jpg


T-Netics intercooler (garrett core)
2012-03-20_22-22-45_976.jpg



DID THE ORIGINAL OWNER EVEN HAVE THE DEALERSHIP STICKER?
 

GT4_DRED

New member
Awesome-Trac":3hh2ee5x said:
DID THE ORIGINAL OWNER EVEN HAVE THE DEALERSHIP STICKER?
If you're referring to the white car I replaced this with, I don't think so, as I didn't get it with the car. However, he's a local who been a part of the scene since back in the 80's and those of us who have been around that long can remember when he bought the car new from the dealership where he worked.
 
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