ST185 trailer hitch?

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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby warracer » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:51 am

You can't tie a hitch on the rear subframe, everything would be under extreme stress... But maybe you could check the rear crash bar setup and hook it on there... Then again I don't really think that the drivetrain would be under excessive stress... My main concern is brake and hook location.
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby sil5er » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:42 am

I have a towbar installed on mine. I use it mainly to mount a very solid bikerack to fend off would be rear end collisions, and whenever I can, take a light wooden trailer out for some camping fun. It also helps when moving house, or transporting firewood.

This is the second ST185 I have had a towbar on, so I say the following from experience:

there is absolutely NO WAY I would ever seek to tow a car on a trailer, behind me. in a nutshell, here's why:

for starters, managing to find someone game enough (and skilled enough!) to actually fabricate a custom jig, AND put it on, was 'challenging'. mainly because: with the fuel tank where it is, and the monococh shell/chassis, there is in fact nowhere to install it. I'm pretty sure it fails the ADR's here in NZ (the legal rules for towbar installation). but no grief, so far, so good.

the jig/hitch/towbar is NOT rated for that kind of weight.

and finally, but actually the biggest point of consideration for me, is it really DOES put a strain on the engine. fuel economy speaks loudly to support this. admittedly, I live in a place where you can't find a level road, ie very hilly, lots of inclines, and corners etc, BUT ... as we all know, these money pits are maintenance intensive, and ... I simply just can't afford to blow bits unecesarily.

hope that helps. (and Im super impressed to find so many others with a hitch on their ST185. way cool.)
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby k-len » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:17 pm

The soul purpose of any car is to get u and yout your sled to The snow (The few Times The snow does't Come to you.

I Use my alltrac primelery to pull my sled to The mountains, if there was no chans of putting a hitch on it, i would never have bought it.

Just sayin 8)
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby underscore » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:28 am

How much does that whole setup weigh? I'm not sure I'd want that much hardware behind a car this small.
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby sil5er » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:27 am

wow!! and nice pics too ... thanks for sharing. : )

I would definitely tow that toy behind my GT4. trailer looks as heavy as the sled, maybe heavier? in any case, you're towing in the cold, which helps with engine bay temps, and ... it's way less stress that towing a whole car behind you (in summer ambient temp etc).
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby k-len » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:01 pm

The trailer is 250 kg (551lb), the sled is about the same wet.

~1200kg (2645lb) is the limit i can pull with this hitch (legaly), but with te bigger trailer, 3 sleds, clohing, packing, gas and whatnot, i gues i´m howling about 1500kg(3307lb) sometimes.

2½" radiator helps with the cooling, but as you say, a car and cartrailer would be heavier.
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby sleeper » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:42 am

I know this is a old post, but was hoping someone have a hitch setup for sale or know where i can find one.
Just need it to tow my jetski\gokart... :D
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby FC Zach » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:48 am

sleeper wrote:I know this is a old post, but was hoping someone have a hitch setup for sale or know where i can find one.
Just need it to tow my jetski\gokart... :D


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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby FC Zach » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:59 am

Also, that part number won't say it fits an AllTrac simply because of safety reasons due to the gas tanks location. . However it does fit (I have it on mine). I recommend buying it with a Euro insert. . You can get a package deal like this.

http://www.curtmfg.com/part/112271
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby sleeper » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:26 pm

Thanks. do you have a picture of it installed?
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby FC Zach » Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:44 am

sleeper wrote:Thanks. do you have a picture of it installed?


I do not but I'll take a picture in a few hours when I'm off work.
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby FC Zach » Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:22 am

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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby freddie » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:00 am

Some years ago I had a Mini Cooper S that I raced. I had a all steel Trailer fabricated to haul the car around on.
My tow car was a Ford Cortina Wagon powered by the 2litre overhead cam engine (Ford Pinto engine)

With the trailer and race car hooked up, my tool box, extra fuel, trolley jack, extra wheels etc, all loaded up
it was a considerable load.

The Trailer had brakes, activated by the tow hitch on the trailer. The trailer spring mounts were set up high so
the trailer sat low and was well balanced.

The tow bar on the Cortina was fabricated to connected into the rear bumper mounts chassis positions and bolts.
Then the rear bumper fixed onto the tow bar. There was a steel strap which connected to the tow bar in the center
and extended under the rear floor (boot floor) of the car and connected to the floor near the back seat. It was
bolted and plated to the floor to give extra strength to the tow bar.

The Cortina pulled that load ok. That is it was no rocket ship on take off's. Once you got moving and cruising along
at 35mph or above, no problems what so ever. On the way to my race circuit there was a hill, if I could get a bit
of a run up I could stay in forth gear (4 speed box). If there was a slow car in front well it would be back to 3rd.

Stopping (with brakes on the trailer) was no problem. Stomping on the brake pedal was like deploying a drag shute
you sure noticed it.
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Re: ST185 trailer hitch?

Postby freddie » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:27 am

I fitted air bags to the rear suspension and when I loaded up the tow car, I pumped them up to keep
the rear level. Handling was never a problem. That trailer was well built and behaved well no matter
what the pavement was like. A little tip here, in tow my race car was secured to the trailer to the
car body/chassis and that stopped it bouncing around on the trailer.

So using your Celica as a tow car, yes it is do-able. Having four wheel drive possibly a plus. Just take
it easy. Take off slow and easy at the lights. Smooth on the clutch and gear changes. Pick a safe RPM
on your tacho and stick to it. If your RPM starts to fall change up a gear and visa-vera (like driving a
diesel haha)

These days you can get electric operated brakes for your trailer and they are brilliant.

The worst thing about towing is all the shits on the road. The ones that pull in front of you, or brake at
the last second, or drive slow in front of you. People driving auto's and keep hitting the brake pedal and
their brake lights keep flashing at you grrrrrrrrr.....................
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