Well, I'm done with it, and I'm pretty sure Tom is too. There is enough information here for anyone who can read to make up their mind what is right and what is wrong. Again, not saying who is right and who is wrong. I just know what the manifold did for my engine. The proof is in the graph. Make your own conclusions. FWIW, most people that know me know that I bought what was billed as "the wordl's largest FMIC" from Paul Rennison. He also had an intake manifold for sale that had a round plenum instead of square that he touted flowed WAY more than the stock manifold (he had a percentage figure, but I can't remember what it was). I almost bought it, but it was $900. It was pretty much a no brainer when I found RMR's manifold. Just my thoughts on it all. I wouldn't hesitate to buy the RMR again if I needed it. There are a lot of people out there that wouldn't hesitate to buy a Toyota again. And there are a lot of people out there that wouldn't hesitate to buy a Honda again. In the end, it is your money and your choice. Choose wisely and choose what you can afford.