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i have been looking into a antilag systems and was wonder if any of you use one.. Or if which ones people have liked and or used. Also if anyone knows what TTE used on the WRC 185???

just thought i would help for those who don't know what a Misfire System is.. It the system used in these videos to cause that wonderful and also annoying "BANG BANG" backfiring sound

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Toyo ... 144137.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zYZ_zItA1Y

I Know what it is and does not more trying to find info on systems that use it.

they're a sweet system, gives you power, but can get very expensive, over 1 grand at least. They shorten the life of your turbo and exhaust manifold by alot. I'd be so down to get one tho...

It's been covered many, many times. Search.

The rally cars used aggressive (air injection) ALS. It is quite expensive and difficult to implement, and likes to kill turbos in very short order. It's entirely useless outside of a tarmac rally stage.

Most any aftermarket EFI computer can do mild (timing) ALS, which is less destructive.

some of the new wrc teams are having their turbos last all season in some cases (at least last year) try to find info on the prodrive P2 it has air injection ALS and it will let the turbo live lol. i'm in the process of making an independant ALS system too but it still seems to fall in the "too expensive" area at a little under a grand- still working on it

You really want to use....if you REALLY want to.....ignition timing/fuelling based AL (Fresh Air System in TTE speak) on a daily car. There are plenty of scooby guys who have run 0psi AL for quite a few years with no real ill effects. A standalone ECU is required to do this properly...END OF! Get a MOTEC and you can run launch control too!

If you want to go for proper ALS you are going to kill your turbo, manifold and exhaust in no time at all. You will really need a CT20-BRB WRC turbo aswell with all it's titanium and inconel loveliness. I would also go with WRC head bolts too as a lot of stress is transmitted to the head too.

Don't just think you can strap it straight on and be off too....you'll need to learn how to drive it with anti-lag first otherwise you'll be spinning the car on corners and putting it into a wall on public roads.

My 2c's

John

.....or the much cheaper alternative option is to learn how to left foot brake and keep the gas on. That's what everyone did before ALS.

Dig out the vid of Walter Rohrl in the Quattro Sport and SEE how it's done.

John

The primary purpose of LFB is not to build / keep boost (although it does somewhat serve that purpose), it is to reduce understeer inherent in FFW and FAW. The Scandanavians rallying FFW normally aspirated Saabs and other dinosaurs in the 50's-60's invented it for that purpose.

talkin about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyVHj3sH ... re=related
in the world of sequential shifter rally cars, most of the drivers are using left foot braking now.
i actually got a chance to ask some of the team mechanics at the last rally i went to some questions about the sti they run, they are using the full wrc als setup on a big 16g and made the turbo last the whole season last year.
that's alot of miles!

seriously read this well it does have lots of good info, the TTE setup is an air injection antilag and yeah the 0psi and up to 4-5psi of available boost can be ran for a very long time with minimal damage if any at all. of course the more refined and better built systems burn the fuel in the manifols in a more controlled way will keep the turbo alive for a very long time- but then those guys have the best resources/sponsors also look up the prodrive P2 it has the same system as the WRC impreza and its a "road car" just a prototype but still tried and true

u see.... lol

They left foot brake now as they don't use the clutch on the stages....perhaps I should have pointed to the interim cars between B and WRC....Group A's pre-ALS.

Also the team's running anti-lag for a year without destroying the turbo won't be telling you the whole story. I assume it wasn't Prodrive you were talking to!!!

Anyway not here to have an argument....good luck!!!

John

i'll just have to proove it myself when this build of mine gets done