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Blow
Off Valve Frequently asked
questions
Introduction: Pressure release valve or more commonly known as a "Blow Off Valve", releases turbo pressure when the throttle plate is
closed. The turbo is still spinning and still creating
pressure. The forced air will hit the throttle plate and return where it came
from. When a BOV reads vacuum from the manifold, it either opens a valve, or softens the
valve. Which lets the pressure escape from it's opening. In order to work correctly the air must go back into the intake before your turbo because the Air Flow Meter has accounted for
it. If not you will have a temporary rich condition which will upset your idle slightly. Proper tuning can get around this
hassle. Most choose to vent to the air, as they love the sweet sound the air makes when it runs to the
atmosphere. If the pressure release valve (as some call it) contains a horn or small holes/vents it will cause the air to make a louder/higher pitched sound depending on what is used.
Q:
What is the difference between a blow off valve and a bypass valve?
A:
A blow off valve will release pressure to the air, while the bypass
valve will release
the pressure into the intake system between the turbo and AFM.
Q:
I installed a blow off valve, it sounds really cool but my car stalls when
I let off. Why?
A:
First of all, the reason this is happening is because the Air Flow
Meter on our cars measures
the air coming in through the flapper door. It senses this air and
adjusts the fuel mixture
accordingly. When you let big rush of air out of the intake system,
you are letting out a
bunch of air that was just measured. The fueling will still dump the
fuel associated with
that air and cause an over rich condition. This will cause your car
to stall momentarily or
in some cases actually turn off. Once the BOV has closed and the
intake system will return
to it's normal state and work again.
To fix this, you need to adjust your BOV. Most BOVs have a screw or
nut to adjust the
tension. You can turn the screw/nut to the right and increase the
tension. Do this several
times with a test drive in between. If your BOV stops letting out
the pressure, you have
adjusted it too tight. You will then need to start adjusting soft
again. You must keep
playing with this adjustment until you get it just right. A good
adjustment will allow the
BOV to release pressure after slight boost, and not stall
afterwards. It is not necessary for
the BOV to release pressure when you rev the car.
Q:
I have heard of a BOSCH or other bypass valves being vented to air, is
this possible?
A:
Yes, but not right away. If you vent the bypass valve to air,
your car will stumble and
most likely turn off between shifts. The reason for this is that
once all the pressure is
released the bypass valve will still be open and create a huge air leak
which the AFM
does not like. If you put a one way check valve on the end of the
output, this will only
allow the air to go out, but not in. Be sure to seal the other side
of the intake where the
air would normally be vented. This makes for some interesting sound
effects!
Q:
How can I make my blow off valve LOUDER?
A:
There are a few possibilities. The first thing to remember is
that there is more boost located in
the piping between the turbo and intercooler, yet most blow off valves are
placed near the throttle.
Now, you want it by the throttle for response, but you can place it closer
to the turbo for a louder
sound output. Another thing to consider is to amplify the
sound. You will notice that blow off
valves with basic air holes are not as loud as blow off valves with horns
(blitz) or air splitters (HKS).
If you have a greddy type S, the most common BOV out there, you can find
something similar in
style to the horn on a blitz BOV and that will make the sound output far
greater. Finally, if you
(or the people on the street) to hear your bov, then you need to place it
in a location that would
let the sound travel out. In most cars the sound is muffled by the
hood lining. Placing them out
side of the engine bay on intercooler piping or similar methods will make
your BOV loud and scary!
Q:
Where do I get the vac/boost feed
for my BOV?
A:
While using the small nipples on the left side of the intake manifold
may work, I suggest
that you use the larger A/C idle adjuster hose. This will increase
the response and thus
the sound of your BOV. In addition to this, this hose is much closer
to your BOV location.
ST165
- Using a large tee, tap into the large vacuum hose coming from the rear
of the intake manifold.
This is the hose that runs up to the A/C idle adjuster on the firewall.
ST185
- Using a large tee, tap into the hose that runs from the right side of
the manifold to the A/C
idle adjustment. Facing the engine from the front, it will be very
obvious how much larger
this vacuum hose is that comes directly out of the intake manifold. Click
Here for a picture
ST205
- Simple use the stock vacuum hose supplied from the factory.
Q:
Can I use my new BOV in conjuction with my stock type BOV A:
Yes you can but it requires some fancy fabrication. This would
be the ideal setup. The stock bypass valve could handle low boost /
flow situations. Which means you can tighten the main blow off valve
so that it only opens under high boost. This way you have created a
"double valve" system. This is not as necessary these days
since twin valve designs exist.
Q:
How Do I install a blow off valve?? A:
Here is my BOV installation notes:
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Bypass Valve |
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This is an old style HKS Sequential BOV Mated to a T style
Flange. This is the easiest way to mount a BOV to your ST165. It would rest in between the Turbo outlet and
I/C. You could weld on the I/C but this option gives you the ability to go back to stock.
Notice the small air filter on the
BOV. This prevents any dirt or debris from entering the chamber after a long pressure release. A good safety feature. |
Here we can see how the T Pipe should be
mounted. There is very little room for tolerance on ST165.
Here we see the Bosch bypass valve installed. The output of the
valve is rerouted back into the intake to maintain a perfectly sealed system as
Toyota had originally desired. You can see how the bypass valves
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a tube design. |
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| Mounting on the ST185 is not so
easy. Here is a blitz bov that has been custom mounted.
Universal bov kits usually come with a flange that can be welded to a pipe
for usage. Make sure that you get the aluminum flange. You
must weld a tube your your ST185 intercooler pipe that is roughly the size
of the circle hole on your flange. Then weld the flange to the top
of that pipe. From that point you can simply mount it and go. |
You can see here on Herman's ST185 how close the bov
comes to hitting other parts in the engine bay. Blitz Super Sound,
Greddy Type S, and HKS Super sequential are all recommended for ST185 as
they fit perfectly. Note that in both pictures, the bov is mounted
almost exactly in the same spot. Make sure you mount it right on the
first bend coming out of the other bov, as that is the known spot for the
bov to fit nicely. If you wanted to mount a Bosch bov as the above
165, you would simple weld a 2" tube to the same place, no flange is
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| If you are lucky enough to own a ST205, you can easily buy a
BOV kit. The ST205 comes with a bypass valve similar to the Supra TT.
The input and output of the BOV is a 2" tube. So the kit will include a hose that you can attach to another tube which contains the
BOV flange on it. The other side which normally routes the air back
into the intake is sealed off. Blitz
Super Sound is pictured here. |
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