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Shifter help

Postby fvkagi » Thu Aug 15, 2019 8:48 pm

I bought a 1990 ST185 project and the shifter never worked at all. It came with an aftermarket shift lever and I believe it is the cosmo racing short shifter with the stock housing (1990). The springs that are on the housing seem to be too weak to bring it back to neutral and it feels really shitty when you do get it into gear. I also have no idea if the shift linkages were changed or anything...

Can somebody also explain how I can shift through the gears by using the 2 levers on the actual transmission.

All help and advice is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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Re: Shifter help

Postby underscore » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:21 pm

Assuming the order is the same as my GTS, the gears are still in an H but rotated. 1/2 are closest to the firewall, 3/4 are in the middle, 5/R are closest to the front. I can't remember which side is which for each pair but if you skim the episodes of Project Binky on YouTube one of the earlier ones covers how they modify the shifter cable bracket and shows them manually selecting all the gears.
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Re: Shifter help

Postby fvkagi » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:14 am

Oooh I forgot that they where using a GT-Four for that lol

I'll check that out thanks!
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Re: Shifter help

Postby fvkagi » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:28 pm

I figured out the issue....

The PO put the wrong cable on the wrong levers on the transmission, so my H pattern is flipped 90 degrees.....
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Re: Shifter help

Postby alltrac801 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:56 pm

So about a year back I ordered a Cosmo Racing short shift for my ST185 and it definitely does not fit without some modifications to the housing. It sits way to low and hits the bottom of the housing. You might take a look at that and see if that's what's going on.

I'm guessing if the PO didn't tell you that they changed the cables then they probably didn't because they are a pain in the ass to change lol
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Re: Shifter help

Postby fvkagi » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:01 pm

alltrac801 wrote:So about a year back I ordered a Cosmo Racing short shift for my ST185 and it definitely does not fit without some modifications to the housing. It sits way to low and hits the bottom of the housing. You might take a look at that and see if that's what's going on.

I'm guessing if the PO didn't tell you that they changed the cables then they probably didn't because they are a pain in the ass to change lol


I just relized they did change the cables and reinstalled them on the wrong levers. So I get to take them out and fix it... :(

Also the short shifter came with these spacers so I think it should be good.
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Re: Shifter help

Postby alltrac801 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 4:19 pm

If they changed them before maybe it wont be as bad. I know there is a pretty good wright up on here on replacing the shift cables that helped me. good luck!

Do you have the Cosmo Short shifter installed yet?
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Re: Shifter help

Postby underscore » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:00 pm

fvkagi wrote:I figured out the issue....

The PO put the wrong cable on the wrong levers on the transmission, so my H pattern is flipped 90 degrees.....


I didn't know it was possible to put the cables on the wrong way, I'm guessing they didn't either. Now I'm curious what shifting in this pattern would be like

1-|-2
3-|-4
5-|-R
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Re: Shifter help

Postby fvkagi » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:19 pm

underscore wrote:
fvkagi wrote:I figured out the issue....

The PO put the wrong cable on the wrong levers on the transmission, so my H pattern is flipped 90 degrees.....


I didn't know it was possible to put the cables on the wrong way, I'm guessing they didn't either. Now I'm curious what shifting in this pattern would be like

1-|-2
3-|-4
5-|-R



Yeah that was pretty much it, but it would not go into reverse lol. I am currently attempting to swap the cables in the engine bay and it is a complete pain in the ass lmao.
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Re: Shifter help

Postby alltrac801 » Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:59 pm

Just a heads up on that short shifter. The studs on the ST185 stock housing are not long enough for the spacers supplied with he Cosmo short shift kit. You'll probably have to source or make some different spacers to fit under the stock housing. If I still had my car apart I could show you some pictures but I don't.
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Re: Shifter help

Postby fvkagi » Fri Aug 16, 2019 7:45 pm

This is how I have it installed...it goes into every gear now that I have fixed the cables but it feels like shit haha

Its super vague about what gear its in and it doesnt really 'spring' back into the middle of neutral like my Miata shifter does.
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