how about alltrac vs old galant vr4

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how about alltrac vs old galant vr4

Postby gpmarzan » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:33 am

theres a guy at my college with a 91 or 92 VR4 with some 'rally' stickers and a loud bov. Anyone raced one of those cars? It seemed right about even with power with our alltracs
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Postby d1alltrac » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:53 am

stock for stock it should be a driver's race,

from for a 91 galant vr4

IIRC alltracs are supposed to run 15.6 also

modded I have no idea, I would guess they have better aftermarket support then us since they share the 4G63 with dsm's.

Race the guy where both cars were meant to be raced, some tiny gravel road :evil:
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Postby Mafix » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:44 am

the galant vr4 is the same thing as a gsx eclipse.
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Postby SuperWhite92 » Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:59 am

They're very comparable. My roommate drives one. Even modded they were close, until I put an ECU and an exhaust on my car (he already had them). Then the alltrac got faster.

it's similar to a GSX, but it's heavier and a lot more complex in the suspension department.
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Postby TheAutoholic » Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:50 am

Mafix wrote:the galant vr4 is the same thing as a gsx eclipse.

Wrong. The first and second gears are different. A VR-4 trans swap is a common mod for Eclipse/Talon drivers to do. ANd there are some differences in the motor, but I don't remember specifics. And yeah there are suspension stuff too, since it is pretty much a different chassis.
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Postby GT4times2 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:15 am

Stock for stock, it may be a close race. With the same mods, the VR4 may win. Better response to basic mods than the Alltrac.
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Postby nfn15037 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:58 am

I just tuned a VR4 last week with a 16G turbo upgrade and a downpipe/exhaust the car made 270 HP and 280 ft/lbs @ 3900 RPMs on a Mustang dyno. This was at ~23 PSI using an Autronic SM2. They are potent cars, but I still think the AllTrac looks better!
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Postby jlspec » Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:31 am

Raced one that was lightly modded. It had a FMIC, a pretty load BOV, and minor other stuff. I have only a exhaust, filter, and BOV. Beat it 6 times in a row. The first run I beat the shit out of it. The rest I won, but he was not far off from me. I could see his hood through my window. To be honest I think our cars respond better to upgrades :D .

My cousin used to have a 90 GSX and race my other cousin with a ST185. First, second, and beginning fo third the ST185 would win, after that the GSX catches up and slowly beats it. My cousins ST185 is not what I would call a good condition ST185. It did have a FMIC, Intake, and it was gap. The GSX had the exact same mod with the gap. It was fun watching them race, and then I come along and beat both of them as if they were civics with my old 89 Supra Turbo (I do miss that power and speed :( ).
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Postby SuperWhite92 » Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:17 am

GT4times2 wrote:Stock for stock, it may be a close race. With the same mods, the VR4 may win. Better response to basic mods than the Alltrac.

I'm gonna beg to differ on this one, and say this:

My car:
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My roommates car:
Rebuilt engine with 2g pistons, no balance shafts, 3 angle valve job, MLS head gasket, fully blueprinted and balanced.
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Fields SFC Hyper-R
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My car will rape his all day long and take his lunch money without a fight.
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Postby Celi-GT4 » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:27 am

Tell us how you really feel Shaun! I heard you where abit excited about brian's offer of the CT27+++ . Sounds good to me.
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Postby CelicaTurbo » Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:28 am

Going to race my friend's Galant VR4. Pretty much stock vs stock. Will let you know the results.
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Postby Kyoto » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:16 am

Only way to be sure is put the same driver in both cars and race against the clock on the same day and pretty much back to back, keeping as many variables as possible constant.
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