The stock bottom end can handle around 500rwhp pretty well... anything more then that however yes you need to build the motor. But there are a SHIT TON of owners on stock internals around 500rwhp. Looks like you should have visted 7mpower.com! (
http://www.7mpower.com/members.shtml )
When did I ever mention reliability when I said 500rwhp on upgraded CT-26's? For a dyno you only run high boost a few times, did I ever say differently? The 60-1 CT is known for blowing with only a few thousand miles on it, but generally thats why most people stopped upgrading to 60-1, now only do 57-1. However, the guy who ran a 12.1 on a full weight MKIII with an upgraded CT did hundreds of passes at Great Lakes Drag away with out any problems, his name was MKIIISupraGuy on the forums... ask any old school MKIIIer who he is and they will tell you he had the best quarter on the CT. STOCK BOTTOM END AND ALL. Infact Tony from CA made 700rwhp on the stock bottom end at VEGAS 2 years ago just fine.... and a couple others did 600rwhp on the stock bottom end.
Now obviously, this isn't going to be the most reliable thing, but I never claimed it would be, but the motor can handle that kinda power... and 500rwhp can be handled relatively reliable with the right turbo and TUNING!!!!
*EDIT, here is his ACTUAL time "16. 12.061@115.59X MKIIISupraGuy "
and a little more info:
Check the link in this thread and read the comments for more reassurance
92t":2at9xzn2 said:
I ran a 12.4@116 see slip here
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=215825&highlight=12.4
This is also the record on stock (upgraded) ct26 turbo! Street tires too.
joliroger4":2at9xzn2 said:
Maybe thats the street tire record if you discount DRs but Leng went 12.06 on an upgraded ct26 and 255 BFGs
Leng is MKIIISupraGuy
Infact here's a quote for you:
MKIIISupraGuy":2at9xzn2 said:
Hey man that is just FRIGGING AWSOME man!!!
Much props to you and your car. What a monster! I bet if you ran my 255/50/16 BFG Drag Radials and cut a 1.800 60ft like I did, you'd be in the 11's!!!
Man... that 116mph trap is unbelievable. Awsome job man. Screw that haters
. They don't know wtf they're talking about. Let them go run mid 12's and 116mph traps with an upgraded ct-26 hehe...
and for a BONUS:
"My 12.61 run
stock ct, stock intercooler, full weight, auto, 550's, vpc, safc-2, blitz nur, titan DP, 20 psi"
"Fresh motor, fresh ct, VPC with SAFC-2, 550's, walbro, Titan DP, Blitz NU-R, AFPR kit, 2mm hks headgasket, 3000 stall converter, built a340, 20psi MBC, 2 hrs of dyno tunning 359hp"
and another:
"New time for the stock ct from tx2k7 11.95@114 with a 75 shot"
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showth ... p?t=217208
Stock suspension is pretty garbage? But what does that have to do with drag racing? A soft suspension is great for launching which is why the MKIII makes a pretty good drag car on the shitty body-roll prone suspension. Yes the brakes are very undersized especially for the weight of the car, but just read any of the old test comparisons with MKIII, it out stops almost every car in its class besides the FC / and Vette GENERALLY.
You may have built 3 back in the day, but there are loads more tricks and information out NOW. You can say what you want I've probably seen 10x more results and info then you in the present... and if you were constantly in the MKIII community you'd probably be pretty surprised and change at least some of your idea's.
So, LOL @
Simba":2at9xzn2 said:
Keep dreaming. ~400-450 to the wheels will get you into the very high 12s with the right tires and a good driver. You're not getting that kind of power out of a CT upgrade for more than a few runs. You're looking at at least a t04b with the requisit supporting mods, and the stock bottom end will generally not survive long at those power levels.
It's pretty obvious you don't know sh1t about drag racing if thats what you believe.
Here is the actual reason why GENERALLY MKIII owners can't drag:
Originally Posted by RANT
I’m going to address a very serious problem in the Supra community; the quarter mile. Whenever supra owners go to the track, they suddenly become half retarded monkeys that can no longer figure out how to drive. I maintain that Supra owners are the worst drivers of all automotive enthusiasts. And what happens when a Supra owner does shitty at the track? They blame everything but themselves. I’ve got news for you jackass Vettes, Cobras, RX7s, 300ZXs, none of them seem to have issues launching their independent rear suspensioned car. Hell, damn front wheel drive Hondas launch better than most supra owners, and they bitch about it less! An IRS is not an excuse. Many domestics have hundreds of pounds on our cars, yet they run faster with less horsepower. Weight is not an excuse. Its your own damn fault for thinking you could hook by just dumping the clutch on a dropped car (with lots of negative camber) rolling on small side walled 18s with street tires that you did a burn out on.
You don’t need 600 horsepower to run 11s. An other car in the world would be DEEP in the 10s with that much power. Hell, it should only take you mid 300s to run twelves. The next time someone posted about how they ran a 14@110 mph, I was going to drive to their house and punch them in the neck. So I had to make this thread. I’m sorry, but it’s fucking embarrassing when at the national meets our cars are running 13s and 14s. If you wonder why our cars get no respect, it’s because you monkeys make sure no one is afraid to race us. My stinking bolt on Integra GSR would eat most of the BPU MK3s on this board alive at the track. That’s just sad as hell because that car is slow as shit.
If I offended you, good. Maybe it will motivate you to prep your car. Take this criticism and use it to fuel your rage. Turn that rage into making your car perform. The dark side isn’t that bad.
That and MKIV owner's generally have the same mindset. Why do you think the joke " Whats the difference between a 400rwhp MKIV and 800rwhp MKIV? Nothing they both run 12's"? There is a common reason for it, because Supra owners are generally RETARDED.
Here is the actual thread with the rant in it, which is GREAT info, especially for Turbo cars, and RWD more specifically.:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14479