Supercharged 1mzfe alltrac-would you do it

Would you do it?

  • yes

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  • no

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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pepper

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InitialD93":3gk1v66r said:
v6 is too wide, it wont clear the rear drive part of the tranny
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Didn't Adrian (I think that was the name) in Santa Barbara drop a v-6 into his alltrac a couple years ago? I remember reading about it on the old board. And I thought it still remained awd?

-Mike
 
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SBCelicaGT

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Ya know.. you might just be able to make this work:

http://photobucket.com/albums/v232/sbce ... er%20Diff/

I'll bet, with the right parts, that center diff will bolt right up to an E153 transaxle(MR2 Turbo and Camry V6). Then it would be a matter of the drive shaft connection, and then using the right front axles. In this case, you would want the inner splines from an MR2 Turbo and the rest of the axle would be from an Alltrac.

So... who's going to be the first to do it?
 
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1stGenAllTrac

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SBCelicaGT":qvwlr2in said:
You're probably hallucinating. I'd wager the torque peak was somewhere in the 400-450 range. However, again, you are alluding to a race car where the rev range is higher than what you see on the street. How much power does that engine make BEFORE the turbo kicks in at 2500, or 3000rpm?

I'm a bit bemused by your reference to the boat anchor 2JZGTE engine as it has nothing to do with the comparison of the 3SGTE to 1MZFE. Again, the JGTC reference is for a RACE CAR. Race cars don't putter around in traffic (well, unless there’s a full course yellow).

Look up the dyno chart of a supercharged 1MZ-FE and compare it to a modified 3SGTE with similar peak power. You will see the 1MZ-FE will have a larger, flatter, power band. For reasonable street horsepower goals (under 300whp), the 1MZ-FE will be much easier to drive as you won’t need to rev the piss out of it to get the car to move. Does that mean it will be faster on the track? Who cares as that’s not the point I am making.
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if you're driving it on the street in stop and go traffic all the time, then why does it matter if you have 100 ft/lbs of torque or 500 ft/lbs. buy a geo to commute with.
i'm sorry if i *assumed* that the swap would be for more than to show off some mad fabrication skills.

in any case, it would be different and it would be neat to see so someone tackle it and then we can stop bench racing and see if the thing actually performs well 8)
 
CMS-GT4

CMS-GT4

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Whats teh details of that center diff? How fast is it to react? What is the split/ tq specs etc../?
 
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SBCelicaGT

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1stGenAllTrac":26c0erfd said:
SBCelicaGT":26c0erfd said:
You're probably hallucinating. I'd wager the torque peak was somewhere in the 400-450 range. However, again, you are alluding to a race car where the rev range is higher than what you see on the street. How much power does that engine make BEFORE the turbo kicks in at 2500, or 3000rpm?

I'm a bit bemused by your reference to the boat anchor 2JZGTE engine as it has nothing to do with the comparison of the 3SGTE to 1MZFE. Again, the JGTC reference is for a RACE CAR. Race cars don't putter around in traffic (well, unless there’s a full course yellow).

Look up the dyno chart of a supercharged 1MZ-FE and compare it to a modified 3SGTE with similar peak power. You will see the 1MZ-FE will have a larger, flatter, power band. For reasonable street horsepower goals (under 300whp), the 1MZ-FE will be much easier to drive as you won’t need to rev the piss out of it to get the car to move. Does that mean it will be faster on the track? Who cares as that’s not the point I am making.
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if you're driving it on the street in stop and go traffic all the time, then why does it matter if you have 100 ft/lbs of torque or 500 ft/lbs. buy a geo to commute with.
i'm sorry if i *assumed* that the swap would be for more than to show off some mad fabrication skills.

in any case, it would be different and it would be neat to see so someone tackle it and then we can stop bench racing and see if the thing actually performs well 8)
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Holy crap, you're clueless. Thanks for playing chief. :crazy:
 
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GMan

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> SBCelicaGT

Hi Adrian Avgerinos;

> Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:35 am

> http://photobucket.com/albums/v232/sbce ... er%20Diff/

Thanks for the pics.

> Ya know.. you might just be able to make this work:

It is Possible. parts, patience and Money ? :)

> So... who's going to be the first to do it?
> Location: Santa Barbara, CA

My bet is someone in CA. :)
They have all the custom shops ?

How cramped does the Highlander engine compartment look compared
to an All_Trac ? How does the rear ex manifold route ?

It certainly would be a Big proejct.

Regards;
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