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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby rallygarage » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:15 pm

This shifter looks different then my 1990 shifter I think. Am I right? If it is different is it better?
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:55 pm

I believe the 90-91 does use a different shifter assy/base. Stock, the 92-93 is shorter, however, if going TWM, i'm not sure if there's any other benefit.

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby Landon » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:34 am

I just installed a TWM shifter myself. Very happy with the result.

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My shifter has a different set up then yours. The ball of the shifter is set in a different bushing on mine. Do you have the stock set up there? Because I know TWM lists the shifter as 90-93. I think. Just curious.
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:19 am

The only thing I got from TWM was the actual shifter, their spacers, and misc. bolts/nuts hardware.

Otherwise, I do believe you use your stock base assembly. I did notice that in the instructions, some of the steps/pics didn't apply, I imagine because it was if you had a 90-91.

If my memory serves me right, the stock 90-91 base is, in fact, different than the 92-93.

I had a 92 shifter (can't remeber if I sold it), that was the exact same as this.

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby athousandleaves » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:51 am

IIRC; Stock 90-91 is mostly metal, 92-93 is mostly plastic.
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:14 am

Carpet is in, finally!

I'm pretty satisfied with the color of the carpet...still would like a fresh replacement though.

Now, moving onto the front seatbelts, rear interior panels, rear seats, cd player, etc.

I need to hook up the battery soon and make sure things are working properly...

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby warracer » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:32 pm

Such an awesome project thanks for sharing! I hope that one day I will be as skilled a you are! :D
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:09 pm

Thanks! Biggest skill is just having patience and taking your time :)

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby polm » Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:00 am

WOW! The car is basically going to be brand new! Great job man, I wish I had the time, space and money to do this...lol Big props to you!
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:33 am

Ok, so now I went back and looked through my pics of my white alltrac (92) when I first got it.

The shifter is different...so now I am confused.

What the hell do I have??

Here is the pic of the shifter you can barely see when I first picked up this car years back. I thought the 92-93 was the same, but apparently not...
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UPDATE: Found these in my "spare parts" folder from the 92 alltac. You can see the shifter better here.

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:43 am

So all the pics are on the same page, here's what I have currently (with TWM installed).

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:56 am

However, according to our own website in the "shifter upgarde article," I have the correct shifter shown with the TWM for a 93 car...so now I am more confused...what was in the 92 white alltrac?? I'm pretty sure there's just a piece of information I am missing in all this lol.

So are there 3 different versions of the shifter...the metal one for 90-91 you see below on the right side in the pic...the 92 all plastic you see in my pic above...and the 93 half metal/half plastic shown above with my TWM?

90 to 93, what is the difference???

The 90-91 shifter has a metal assembly and parts came separately for replacing. The 92-93 shifter came as a full assembly with a slightly longer bottom shaft, reducing throw. The 92-93 shifter assembly is also plastic. You can replace the entire assembly or just the shifter if you are doing a 90 upgrade. Here is a pic showing the difference by Matt Crawley. The 92+ assembly is on the left, 90-91 on the right.

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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby Tecker185 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:31 am

I've had a shifter from every year 90-93 and the 90-91 shifter assembly sits lower. I have no idea why but it does. That's why the TWM comes with spacers because if you don't it will bottom on on the floor.
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby darthripley » Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:32 pm

i'll have to look through my project thread b/c the shifter i have in the car now came out of a CS so that may be one of the differences. :shrug:
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Re: OKC Project - 12/20 - Restart on interior install

Postby toayoztan » Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:31 pm

So is the 92 shifter really all plastic like my old one then, and then switched in 93 to the half metal half plastic?

I thought TWM recommended all years use the spacers or it would bottom out. That's how it appears on mine also...there is some clearance, maybe I can se about removing the spacers and double checking if it's needed or not.

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