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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby simple » Sun Jan 03, 2021 2:24 am

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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:18 pm

Hit a snag... all the lines are toast in the rear. I swear Tecker is a savant (which sucks for me). All brake lines, all fuel lines are 100% toast in the rear. Super annoying. Either way, gas tank install is on hold until I get all new lines. Is there anywhere to purchase pre-bent lines? I know you have to modify them slightly still, but something go off of would be nice.

Here's the current situation (in extremely high contrast):

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It looks alarming, but keep in mind, the contrast shows extreme rust.
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Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the Grave

Postby Tecker185 » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:21 pm

I purchased the last set of pre-bent lines in the states back in like 2009. Good luck routing them in the stock routing. Even using NiCopp lines I wasn’t able to make it look oem without kinking. Best of luck to you


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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:41 pm

Tecker185 wrote:I purchased the last set of pre-bent lines in the states back in like 2009. Good luck routing them in the stock routing. Even using NiCopp lines I wasn’t able to make it look oem without kinking. Best of luck to you


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Bruce ya frickin' jinxed me lmao (kidding). I looked a little bit today, that stock routing area looks like a PITA and yeah, there's no sign of pre-bent lines hanging around anymore. There's some guys in my area that will do it, but it's not going to be cheap if I do. I was thinking about buying braided where I can and then running it in a non-uniform method to the best of my ability. I got a few more phone calls to make though clearly lol
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:00 pm

At least the tank looks good lol

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I contacted a local guy who bends NiCopp pretty frequently, I don't trust my own skills on this, as I feel I would be kinking way too much. Time to call in the professionals lol.
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:42 pm

So I scheduled the brake line install. I'm looking to order NiCopp brake lines, but the threads are confusing my search. Half the forum threads say 3/16, the other half say 1/4 brake lines with m10x1.00 connectors. So, which is it for a ST185? To be clear, I'm swapping out all the old steel coated brake lines for NiCopp - front to back. Ordering 50' unless I need more. For fuel send, I see some people saying 5/16 M14x1.5. Can anybody for sure confirm these numbers?


This is the best reference I found in a thread from 2015 from athousandleaves:

For my 185 I replaced the stock rear lines with the following after carefully measuring the original lines:

Brakes 3/16" M10x1.00
Fuel Return & Evap 1/4" Bubble flare (evap line may have had M14x1.5's?)
Fuel Send 5/16" M14x1.5

All working and no leaks... 165 should be similar.

In hindsight I should have just deleted the whole evap line too :bangshead:


Any help would be appreciated!
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:43 pm

So just a small update. I put the car up on a friends lift and started at the lines with him. The previous post dimensions were incorrect. Turns out the lines up top front are 1/8" and 3/8" ???? either way, had to postpone because I actually broke my hand taking the car off the trailer - took a few weeks to heal lol. Hopefully I can get this Lazzy running soon. The line routes are an absolute PITA.

Oh also, I got her some new shoes.

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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby transneptunian » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:27 pm

Awesome story man. Can’t wait to see more!
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:24 pm

SHE RUNS!

What a PITA finishing up the NiCopp lines... Bruce ya weren't joking.

Anyways, Lazzy is running and I couldn't be happier. Definitely didn't run it long since I'll have to change countless belts, hoses, etc etc. I'm also worried about the oil pump after all these years. Anyways, I'll see if I can link a video. Unfortunately after finishing up the rear brake lines and some mishaps (pictured) it sprung a leak up where it was connected on the firewall.

But at least there's some good news. The supra twin turbo fuel pump connected and worked right away. Only problem now is the sending unit isn't registering fuel which blows. Anyways, here's some pictures and hopefully the video:

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*Clap clap clap* Pumped

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Here are the vidyas:

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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby underscore » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:25 pm

Nice work!

How do you have two rear tow points? I thought all the 185's only had one. I feel ripped off now.
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:52 am

underscore wrote:Nice work!

How do you have two rear tow points? I thought all the 185's only had one. I feel ripped off now.


Thanks! What I do know is that the 1990-1991 and 1992-1993 ST185 differed slightly with how they were set up, so it's very possible that the 1992-1993 has two tow points on both sides where as the 1990-1991 did not. Actually see below with the rear brake size difference on the different years as well!

Anyways, Since the machine is running, here's some pictures of her and then some pictures of the annoying brake replacement. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING was seized on. Luckily with enough torching and PB things start to loosen up. Anyways, 3 out of 4 brakes were done before I ran out of time.

DISCLAIMER: Most of you know this but the 1992-1993 ST185 have larger rotors than the 1990-1992 in the rear. Here is the model number for the right size in the pictures. Also some comparison pictures below.

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That's all for now. The weekend I have some big plans for getting it registered, and the engine compartment back together and replacing the radiator / hoses (praying there's nothing more) since there's a coolant leak. I hope to take her on her first small trip soon!
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:58 pm

If anything I have this thread to look back on haha. Front calipers were too far gone to work properly (cleaned, regreased and rebuilt - still not fully functional!) got some remanned ones and painted em red. Here's after replacement. Also, many praises for a parts car!

Following this, I took her for the first 20 mile spin. She worked OK but still have to replace the transmission cooler lines and power steering lines. Thankfully again from Frank I have a full parts GTS with one in there in good shape <_<

Here's some after pictures and a nice slow highway ride.

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Little dirty from some mild off-roading :)
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Tue Apr 13, 2021 5:05 pm

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Just a fun picture of the two gals together
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Tippo » Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:32 pm

Ok so I still need those transmission lines or make them myself. If anybody has them let me know! I really don't want to go the homemade route but I will if need be.

Anyways, the good ish just came in... Once the lines are in, a flush, then in this goes.

- Got the tranny cooler
- Swapped the MT90 for GL-5 75w90
- Tranny cooler placed
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Re: Project Lazarus: Pulled from the Ground; Save from the G

Postby Alikazam » Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:32 am

Good read and good stuff my man! Though I'm going to vote for making your own lines for the transmission lol. I had to do a lot of similar stuff with my fuel tank, though I ended up taking the tank to a radiator repair shop and having them completely blast the inside and coat it with sealer to get it back to good condition. My filler tube is a little rusty but overall not in bad shape. I completely disassembled my sending unit and cleaned up the contacts until it read (with ohm meter) smooth from bottom to top before reinstalling. Not that tough actually. One thing is the Thermistor resistor for the dummy light (low gas light) was shot on mine and I put in a generic one I found on Digi-key. Unfortunately it kept turning the low gas light on all the time lol (except in a very cold morning!). I clipped the wire for now but will need to source a proper resistor eventually (or thermistor sending unit as a whole!). Anyone know the actual specs of the factory thermistor? Keep up the good work!

I'm not a huge fan of Supra pumps, maybe because back in the day they had a bad reputation of overheating and dropping fuel pressure when fuel was low, but hopefully that's not the case anymore. I went with a Walbro 450 in mine, but i'm also running no where near stock levels of stuff haha. So glad I didn't have to replace all my bent lines.
I did run a 1/2" stainless line I bent myself from back to front (went through driver-side wheel well at the end and steering rack hole) for my fuel feed and I can guarantee the original line on mine (1990) was 5/16" diameter (used a compression fitting as old connection at fuel tank was siezed and had to cut it off) since that's now my return line. Mine sat from 2006 until July of last year when I pressure washed all the grime off of it and began working on getting it back running. She's been my daily driver (about 20 miles each way to work) for the past 3 weeks :) She rips too! Good luck with yours again, and keep it up! :)
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