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92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:32 pm
by RedCelicaTRD
Looking for some 92-93 rear tail lights and the center section that holds the license plate. No cracks or scratches that can't be polished out, please.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:05 pm
by 93celicaconv
Wayne, your profile says you have a 1990 All-Trac. And you want 1992-1993 taillights & center license plate holder? The 1992-1993 are different from 1990-1991, as I'm sure you already know.

Also, the Celica GT-S would be a suitable donor for these parts, which should make them more accessible (if one can find such a car in a salvage yard these days).

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:10 am
by RedCelicaTRD
I am aware of the differences. Unfortunately there aren’t any Celicas in any local junkyards.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 11:01 pm
by earthmanjupiter
Hey there's a 92 here at a the "expensive" junkyard in Ogden. I'm pulling other pieces tomorrow or Wednesday but I could snag the lights for you. They'll probably charge me $80-100 for them because they are the worst. Would you want me to get photos at least?

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 2:41 pm
by Tippo
earthmanjupiter wrote:Hey there's a 92 here at a the "expensive" junkyard in Ogden. I'm pulling other pieces tomorrow or Wednesday but I could snag the lights for you. They'll probably charge me $80-100 for them because they are the worst. Would you want me to get photos at least?


That's not even a bad price lol. The Kouki tails are now 500ish. Aside from that, I actually like the look of Kouki tails with a Zenki center piece.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 6:49 pm
by RedCelicaTRD
earthmanjupiter wrote:Hey there's a 92 here at a the "expensive" junkyard in Ogden. I'm pulling other pieces tomorrow or Wednesday but I could snag the lights for you. They'll probably charge me $80-100 for them because they are the worst. Would you want me to get photos at least?


If it’s in good shape and can be polished up nicely I’ll take the center section. I was able to order new lights from Japan, but the center section is unavailable.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:04 pm
by 93celicaconv
RedCelicaTRD wrote:I was able to order new lights from Japan, but the center section is unavailable.

What was your source in Japan that had new lights still available to sell?

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:22 pm
by underscore
I'd like to know too, I stumbled across a brand new one for one side but I don't have the other.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:14 pm
by RedCelicaTRD
Amayama. They had the USDM part number for the light and harness, so the full assembly. They also had the JDM number for just the lens. I ordered both for both sides. We’ll see how it works out.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:45 pm
by underscore
Definitely keep us posted, I might snag one to have a new pair on hand if what you get is correct. I'm also curious what the difference is between the USDM and JDM. I always assumed they were the same which might be why I wasn't finding them before. Europe might be different as well then.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:33 pm
by Tippo
underscore wrote:Definitely keep us posted, I might snag one to have a new pair on hand if what you get is correct. I'm also curious what the difference is between the USDM and JDM. I always assumed they were the same which might be why I wasn't finding them before. Europe might be different as well then.


USDM is different than JDM. JDM has those vented corners and popout sides. Not a fan of em, but a bunch of people like them. I prefer the Koukis to the Zenkis. The Zenki center says "CELICA" which i am a fan of. Here's an example of my old car:

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Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:41 pm
by 93celicaconv
Tippo wrote:USDM is different than JDM. JDM has those vented corners and popout sides. Not a fan of em, but a bunch of people like them. I prefer the Koukis to the Zenkis. The Zenki center says "CELICA" which i am a fan of.

So you have the 92-93 smoke outlined rear tail lights, but have the 90-91 rear center garnish?

Unless I'm not seeing things right, the rear corner lamp covers are not included with the rear tail light assemblies. And for the 92-93 smoke trimmed style, only one side of the rear corner covers are available. If only both sides were available.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:45 pm
by Tippo
93celicaconv wrote:
Tippo wrote:USDM is different than JDM. JDM has those vented corners and popout sides. Not a fan of em, but a bunch of people like them. I prefer the Koukis to the Zenkis. The Zenki center says "CELICA" which i am a fan of.

So you have the 92-93 smoke outlined rear tail lights, but have the 90-91 rear center garnish?

Unless I'm not seeing things right, the rear corner lamp covers are not included with the rear tail light assemblies. And for the 92-93 smoke trimmed style, only one side of the rear corner covers are available. If only both sides were available.


Yes, Kouki = 92-93, Zenki = 90-91. That's pictured here with the Kouki tails and Zenki center. As for my 92 (Lazarus), that's all Kouki stock. Mirum had Zenki stock, but i converted all to Kouki. If they're not selling you the turn signal/lamp with the tails, that's messed up. JDM is vented, USDM is not. 90-91 is complete amber where as 92-93 is smoked. These are specific to the year of tails and version of tails.

I actually like the mixed look though from full kouki tails to zenki center. To each their own!

And what I meant by vents, that's JDM only.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:52 pm
by 93celicaconv
Tippo wrote:Yes, Kouki = 92-93, Zenki = 90-91. That's pictured here with the Kouki tails and Zenki center. As for my 92 (Lazarus), that's all Kouki stock. Mirum had Zenki stock, but i converted all to Kouki. If they're not selling you the turn signal/lamp with the tails, that's messed up. JDM is vented, USDM is not. 90-91 is complete amber whereas 92-93 is smoked. These are specific to the year of tails and version of tails.

I actually like the mixed look though from full kouki tails to zenki center. To each their own!

And what I meant by vents, that's JDM only.

Not messed up. I was talking about the rear corner light covers, and those covers are not included with the rear tail light assemblies. They need to be ordered separately. If you take a look at the detail on ToyoDIY.com, you can see that the rear corner covers are not included with the rear tail light assemblies - they are on their own separate page. If you got the rear corner light covers by only ordering the rear tail light assemblies, you were fortunate. When I ordered new rear tail light assemblies for my 1993 Celica convertible back a long time ago, those rear corner light covers did not come with the rear tail light assemblies - I needed to order them separately. Back at that time, Toyota had most of those kinds of things still available.

Re: 92-93 Tail Lights and Center Plate Holder

PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:36 pm
by Tippo
93celicaconv wrote:
Tippo wrote:Yes, Kouki = 92-93, Zenki = 90-91. That's pictured here with the Kouki tails and Zenki center. As for my 92 (Lazarus), that's all Kouki stock. Mirum had Zenki stock, but i converted all to Kouki. If they're not selling you the turn signal/lamp with the tails, that's messed up. JDM is vented, USDM is not. 90-91 is complete amber whereas 92-93 is smoked. These are specific to the year of tails and version of tails.

I actually like the mixed look though from full kouki tails to zenki center. To each their own!

And what I meant by vents, that's JDM only.

Not messed up. I was talking about the rear corner light covers, and those covers are not included with the rear tail light assemblies. They need to be ordered separately. If you take a look at the detail on ToyoDIY.com, you can see that the rear corner covers are not included with the rear tail light assemblies - they are on their own separate page. If you got the rear corner light covers by only ordering the rear tail light assemblies, you were fortunate. When I ordered new rear tail light assemblies for my 1993 Celica convertible back a long time ago, those rear corner light covers did not come with the rear tail light assemblies - I needed to order them separately. Back at that time, Toyota had most of those kinds of things still available.


I meant from resellers. Especially JDM! They are technically separate from Toyota since they come apart, but if a third party is selling you this item without the amber corners that clip into the tail-lights, then that's messed up. It's near impossible to find them used otherwise. We're not talking new from toyota, right?