Alltrac has a "ride" like a BMW?

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Alltrac has a "ride" like a BMW?

Postby XoDuzZ » Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:22 pm

I remember stumbling upon a thread a little while ago about someone saying the Alltrac had a relatively smooth ride like a BMW 3 series.

Well, a friend of mine who is out of time owns a BMW 323ci, convertable. He told me I could use anything in the house as long as the neighbors didn't complain - So I took out the car. It's a 5 speed with a good 180 horsepower, and the car REALLY moved. It had alot of understeer at low speeds (only let down) but I'm curious if anyone who has driven both have noticed similarities in the luxury lines (BMW, Benz, Audi, etc) to the smooth ride / stiffness of the Alltrac?

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Postby SLC Punk » Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:27 pm

My ST185 shifts like my brothers '02 IS300 5-speed. His handles better than mine, but the ride on straight roads feel similar.
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Postby AlltracAvenger » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:53 am

My mom owns an E46 '03 325ci Convertable. As far as my ST165 goes... the 325 outhandles it any day of the week... but we are comparing two very different cars here, with massive gaps in technology as far as steering and suspension systems go... my stock 14" wheels versus the BMW's 17" with sport tires; BMW's adaptive power steering versus my regular late-1980s Toyota setup; the BMW's traction control versus.... well... do you really need traction control with a GT-Four? If it sounds that I favor the Bimmer at this point, you're probably right... I admit to being a massive BMW enthusiast... however stock for stock, the GT-Four will romp on amy E46 less than an M3 off the line, regarding cars in similar condition and driver skill. With better wheels and an upgraded suspension, the GT-Four will prolly have handling approaching that of the E46; but an AWD car will feel and handle much different than a RWD. And if you want to play with an M3? For far less than the price of one, I'm sure you could buy the ST165/ST185 of your choice and get it reliably competing on the level of the mighty M. As far as older BMWs go, I'd choose the ST165 any day. Compared to the E30 M3, the ST165 prolly doesn't have an edge on handling and technocrap like the BMW; but you have AWD in a car pretty much the same size, weight, and power. That and the price... an M3 cost about $35K back in 1989... an ST165 cost $23K... and I think that was loaded. Don't get me wrong, I love BMWs, and I would own an M3 in a heartbeat... but I for one won't give up my GT-Four for it. Jes' my two cents.
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Postby the911s » Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:58 am

Recently rode in a brand new (well... i donno, 2002 or something) M5. I guess you could say our ride is comparable... the M5's ride is actually surprisingly harsh, but it's also very firm. I would say that Alltrac has a similarly firm ride, although it's a lot noisier. Whenever I ride in fast cars like that, I am always pleasantly surprised how well the Alltrac grips in comparison. Sure, the M5 may handle a shitload better, but we do compare in sheer grip. Power on the other hand... well, forget about it.
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Postby ChrisD » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:37 pm

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Postby » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:11 pm

a 93 has a nice tight ride stock.

when I rode in Gus' car, I asked him what upgrade he had.

He explained it was stock.

And I Went

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