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BriinumsBo

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when i bought from rockauto.com, they said, theyre all the same! im not sure since i didnt put mine on, but i guess they are!
 

Sifu

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I've heard they're the same and side by side they look alike but I've always marked them upon removal and put them in their marked locations.
 

CMS-GT4

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From what I have learned, the axles swap either way.

I testd my heat exchanger. I think I found the leaks. The good leak was something loose, the bad leak is a small hairline crack where it was zip tied again the car. I think I can JB weld it and it will be fine.

So, I will fix that tonight, then its just a matter of me waitinf for my new relay and axle to come in.

I also ordered the UK side splitters for a lip project I will work on once the car is painted.
 

CMS-GT4

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Did a little work today since it was nice out.

I made the pump bracket today. I used an old oem bracket for a 3s fuel filter. I also cleaned up the pump wiring. That was the last of the wiring I had to clean up, and I also took care of my short.

If I can do a little every day, I should be able to finish this thing.

Here is the pump bracket I made. I drilled 1 hold for one side, and used the bolt that the light motor mounts to. I also used a hose clamp to make the pump extra secure.

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CMS-GT4

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Made more progress today. I made 1 bracket for my heat exchanger. I also hooked up the IC water system. Everything is solid and no leaks. So thats good news.

I broke a bolt off the bracket I was going to have my 2nd heat exchanger bracket come from. So I have to get another one of those before I am done with the brackets. I was mounting it to the bottom of the A/C condensor brackets.

I also put in the new relay. No short or issues. There is now a big inline fuse to protect the relay now if anything happened.

I also put in my extended slave cylinder rod. No good directions on this. I found if you just unbolt the slave cylinder you can move it enough to replace everything. It went smooth till I tore a chunk out of my finger bolting it back on.

So, if the weather is good tomorrow I am going to take a crack at installing the new axle. I might go for a test drive first in the morning just cause its been a bit since I drove the car.
 

CMS-GT4

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So I wanted to go for a test drive but ran the car out of gas. So it sits in the driveway for another day or two. Its friggin cold and might snow so I doubt I will run the car out. Wide summer tires + snow = no go, even w/ AWD.

I have been wonding about my total final drive since I have the RC final drive and I have the taller than stock tires. It makes 5th gear kind of high even for the extra power of a stock 205.

I do not plan on getting a smaller tire so I think when I do the clutch I will either do a new gearbox or lower final drive.

Someone on celicatech made this great excel form for figuring out celica ratios.

http://celicatech.com/forums/showthread ... st29884802

Here is some info on my car as is.

Stock ratio, or my previous size.
RIM SIZE WIDTH SIDE WALL
17 215 40

TOTAL DIAMETER
23.77



RPM on stock dia. w/ RC FD
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 4.7 8.8 13.5 18.5 24.6
2000 9.3 17.6 27.0 37.0 49.2
3000 14.0 26.4 40.4 55.5 73.8
4000 18.7 35.2 53.9 74.0 98.3
5000 23.3 43.9 67.4 92.4 122.9
6000 28.0 52.7 80.9 110.9 147.5
6250 29.2 54.9 84.3 115.6 153.7
7000 32.7 61.5 94.4 129.4 172.1
7200 33.6 63.3 97.1 133.1 177.0


Current setup. w/ RC FD
RIM SIZE WIDTH SIDE WALL
17 255 40

TOTAL DIAMETER
25.03

RPM w/ currenty setup.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 4.9 9.3 14.2 19.5 25.9
2000 9.8 18.5 28.4 38.9 51.8
3000 14.7 27.8 42.6 58.4 77.7
4000 19.6 37.0 56.8 77.9 103.6
5000 24.6 46.3 71.0 97.3 129.4
6000 29.5 55.5 85.2 116.8 155.3
6250 30.7 57.8 88.7 121.7 161.8
7000 34.4 64.8 99.4 136.3 181.2
7200 35.4 66.6 102.2 140.2 186.4


My current setup if I changed to the alltrac final drive.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 4.5 8.5 13.0 17.9 23.8
2000 9.0 17.0 26.1 35.7 47.5
3000 13.5 25.5 39.1 53.6 71.3
4000 18.0 34.0 52.1 71.5 95.0
5000 22.5 42.5 65.2 89.4 118.8
6000 27.0 51.0 78.2 107.2 142.6
6250 28.2 53.1 81.4 111.7 148.5
7000 31.6 59.5 91.2 125.1 166.3
7200 32.5 61.2 93.8 128.7 171.1

RPM if I had the alltrac box/FD and oem tire dia.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 4.9 8.6 12.4 17.0 22.6
2000 9.7 17.2 24.7 33.9 45.1
3000 14.6 25.9 37.1 50.9 67.7
4000 19.5 34.5 49.5 67.9 90.3
5000 24.4 43.1 61.9 84.9 112.8
6000 29.2 51.7 74.2 101.8 135.4
6250 30.5 53.9 77.3 106.1 141.0
7000 34.1 60.4 86.6 118.8 158.0
7200 35.1 62.1 89.1 122.2 162.5

My current setup if I changed to the RAV4 4.933 final drive.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 3.9 7.4 11.3 15.5 20.6
2000 7.8 14.8 22.6 31.0 41.3
3000 11.7 22.1 34.0 46.6 61.9
4000 15.7 29.5 45.3 62.1 82.6
5000 19.6 36.9 56.6 77.6 103.2
6000 23.5 44.3 67.9 93.1 123.8
6250 24.5 46.1 70.7 97.0 129.0
7000 27.4 51.6 79.2 108.7 144.5
7200 28.2 53.1 81.5 111.8 148.6


My current setup with 2003 Rav 4 gearbox.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 3.9 7.9 12.0 16.4 19.5
2000 7.9 15.8 24.0 32.9 38.9
3000 11.8 23.7 36.0 49.3 58.4
4000 15.7 31.5 48.0 65.7 77.9
5000 19.7 39.4 60.0 82.2 97.3
6000 23.6 47.3 72.0 98.6 116.8
6250 24.6 49.3 75.0 102.7 121.7
7000 27.6 55.2 84.0 115.1 136.3
7200 28.3 56.8 86.4 118.3 140.2

My current setup if I changed to the RAV4 4.562 final drive.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 4.2 8.0 12.2 16.8 22.3
2000 8.5 16.0 24.5 33.6 44.6
3000 12.7 23.9 36.7 50.4 67.0
4000 16.9 31.9 49.0 67.1 89.3
5000 21.2 39.9 61.2 83.9 111.6
6000 25.4 47.9 73.4 100.7 133.9
6250 26.5 49.9 76.5 104.9 139.5
7000 29.6 55.8 85.7 117.5 156.2
7200 30.5 57.4 88.1 120.9 160.7


It seems that the RAV4 4.562 final drive would get my ratios closest to having a stock tire size/FD.

I will really consider this project once I decide to dive into the clutch project.

EDIT: Adding info on st205 stock RPMs for reference.
SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED
RPM 1ST 2ND 3RD 4TH 5TH
1000 5.3 7.5 13.5 18.5 23.2
2000 10.5 15.0 27.0 37.0 46.4
3000 15.8 22.4 40.5 55.5 69.7
4000 21.0 29.9 54.0 74.0 92.9
5000 26.3 37.4 67.5 92.5 116.1
6000 31.5 44.9 81.0 111.0 139.3
6250 32.8 46.7 84.3 115.6 145.1
7000 36.8 52.4 94.5 129.5 162.6
7200 37.8 53.8 97.2 133.2 167.2
 

CMS-GT4

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Put some gas in the car, but it still does not want to run. I have a feeling my battery is going shot. This always seems to happen whenever I drain an optima.
 

CMS-GT4

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Charged the battery, still does not run. WTF. It was running fine, then it died, then it won't start again. WFT happened. I got to figure this out. Something has got to be loose somewhere... I hear the fuel pump work.
 

CMS-GT4

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Its getting fuel to the rail. I have a feeling something came unplugged, its just a matter of figuring out, what...
 

CMS-GT4

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My splitters came in. I put them away so not to distract me. I just started school and have been busy. Plus its been cold. I want to spend a day tearing into the car and figuring out what happened. I am sure its very simple and stupid to fix. But there is a lot of area to cover. I am going to make sure I am getting spark and fuel and work my way down. No error codes, so that is a good sign.
 

SuperWhite92

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Bump?


Just kidding. I enjoy reading updates.

I think that your car quit running about the time I bought mine. And then I sold it.

I think that means you need to get to work?

:D
 

CMS-GT4

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School and work have been keeping me busy. If I don't have time over the next month, I will be spending my spring break finishing the car so it can be painted.
 

CMS-GT4

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I did one of my tests today. I tired the Z's battery to make sure mine wasn't the issue. Same problem, so if its nice this weekend, I might get my wife to help me with testing for spark.
 

CMS-GT4

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Hey Eric. Hope all is well. I have been slammed lately. I am going to be spending my spring break finishing the car. Till then, I am trying to pass my classes.
 

CMS-GT4

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So spring break is here for me now. I am hoping the weather will be on my side. I plan on finishing my car work this next week.

Here is a thread that I am starting to help get the A/C figured out, so by the time its running again, I have the info I need to have an A/C.

http://www.alltrac.net/phpBB2/viewtopic ... 904#245904

I am also trying to sort everything else out I have to do to both my cars. I want to wrap up this project, so I can spend free time driving and not working on cars. Plus I got to focus on my homework, etc..
 

CMS-GT4

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So I pulled the intercooler and tested for spark. I am getting spark. I cranked the key for about 20 seconds after and pulled a spark plug. I could smell fuel, but it was dry. I have a feeling my issue is fueling. I am going to get a Fuel pressure gauge and start testing from there.
 
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