Fox 21 Alpha
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Figured I might as well finally get around to creating a project thread for this car, especially since I'm already starting to forget what I've done on what days. Its probably gonna be pretty scattered while I collect the photos and stuff, so give it a few days.
Anyways, for a background, I found this car on Craigslist during the summer of '08 in the local area for like $4800. After a couple deals on some Del Sols and stuff feel through, I ended up going back to this car. Negotiated down to 4k, and the seller was willing to hold it for me until summer of '09 so I could spend my money on school stuff. Turned out well, since the Navy ended up failing in getting me on AT which I was counting on the money from to buy whatever vehicle I ended up getting. Anyways finally ended up borrowing money out of my retirement account (Stocks blow right now anyways so its not gonna be making any money for awhile), which works out well, 3% interest, and you pay it back to yourself, only money you lose is a $50 fee. Anyways the car, yes, ended up buying it on 6/4/09, and how it towed the 30 miles back to my house (ok, not so local, but friend owes the towing company, I got a good rate).
So now its sitting on the street infront of my house (which happens to be a hill) with some random truck license plate thrown on from the seller way back when to keep his neighbors happy, and expired tags and inspection from 02. So now the race is on to get it fixed before someone finally calls it in or the city sees it and tries to tow.
Known Issues at Purchase (Car has been sitting for 5-6 years):
Turbo Oil seals are blown, its throwing oil into the air intake/tb/engine
Rusted brake line in the front
Some rust under driver side rocker
Alloy Rim needs fixed
Idles like crap
Needs a new battery
More Discovered Issues After a Few Hours of Work:
Rotors and pads are gone, no resurfacing those bastards
Hood Insulation is coming apart and ending up in weird places on the chassis
Exhaust Needs atleast one hole patched/fixed, rear exhuast is going to need dropped and inspected
Broke off 3 bolt heads in cat. convt to turbo. One was already missing
:shrug:
Rounded the A/C. bracket bolt, as well as the front engine support mount bolt. Another engine support bracket bolt is disfigured and needs replaced. Infact, there's a shitload of bolts either broken, rounded, or just flat out missing on the car (Radiator fan was attached via one bolt). I'm not even going to bother to list the rest, even though I prob will so I know to buy anyways.
Catalytic Convert needs new seals.
Coolant hoses are nice and rusted and dirty on the inside. Uh.....
Oil residue is in the intercooler, and probably the rest of the air intake system from the turbo on.
Fog lights don't work.
Missing some brackets for the righthand fuse box (like all of them, like it was just wedged next to the battery). All of the fuse box cases also need new lids, as they're either cracked or have broken off tabs, or both. They'll hold for now though.
Needs a paint job.
So my first order of business has been to try and remove the bad turbo, and replace it with the one I got used. Hopefully the used on works. I've been cleaning up the old turbo in my free time. Using wire wheels to polish the exhaust side, and cleaned the intake side best I can. Had the exhaust manifold that came with it cleaned at NAPA's shop for $15, looks like brand new, so trying to get the turbo to look nice too. It was missing 3 studs, and another was broken off. Got the broken one out, and tapped new threads in. Also bought 3 other studs incase the ones on the car don't come out.
So as of 6/14, I got the exhaust from the turbo to the mp/second part, idk, its like the first half. Also have the cat conv off, as well as the intercooler. A/C has all its bolts to the car loosened, but the bracket bolt got rounded, so its not going to get moved out of the way anyways for the turbo removal (per BGB). The clutch slave cylinder also isn't going anywhere, because the first bolt holding the hydraulic line to the block just turns, like there's a nut on the other side of it, but I can't find one on the back, so it just turns. But doesn't come out. I don't even know why the hell I gotta take it off in the first place :shrug:
Coolant was also drained. Nasty. Either extremely dirty, or has oil in it, or both. Also went to remove the turbo oil hose from the pan. Thought oil might pour out of it (haven't drained the oil yet), and I was right, it started leaking as I was working the hose off. BGB didn't say to drain the oil, or maybe it did and I didn't remember, so I drained the oil. Which overflowed the drain pan I was using, partly because I'm on a hill I guess, but still wouldn't have fit. Ran in the house and found a jug to catch the last bit. etc etc. Needless to say I split a good amount in the street, and also a good bit on my porch transferring it jugs. That was nearly two days ago. Still have the stains. Sum bitch.
The turbo is completely disconnected now, save for the oil hose(?) coming from the block on that huuuggggggeeeee ass nut. Gonna try and just disconnect the hose from the turbo itself instead. The bolt for the turbo bracket to the block is apparently not there (I'm finding numerous missing or loose bolts, clamps, etc). However the turbo will not come loose. It will slide down an inch or tow, then comes back up to nearly its resting position. Have only gotten it about a inch down the studs from the exhaust manifold. I'm guessing the bracket is pushing against the block, and the further down it goes, it just wedges and slides back up. Not sure how I'm going to get the bracket off the turbo though. :|
Some pics.
Oily turbo hose to intercooler.
Oily Air Hose from turbo to air box if I remember right
Rusty rotors. The light colored rust is the from pads rubbing the rotors because I had to use the ebrake when I moved it. :twisted:
Pic of the Engine bay and removed parts after I took some stuff off the otherday. I'll get some updated ones.
I was able to start the car before disassembly, actually fairly easier then last time when I was looking at with the seller. Still idles the same rough. Hopefully its nearly out of gas. Battery will not hold a charge though. Moved it backwards about 5 feet and then drifted/drove in 1st gear the 5 back down the street. The wheels turn and I guess the tranny and diff work :wink: . It seems the more I take this car apart, the more money its going to take. I originally wanted it on the road within a few days. Then I found out it needs $400 in brakes. Then the exhaust is going. So probably another $400 or so, and probably going to have to be that no name motoria or whatever the hell shit, since that's about only completely SS exhaust system under $750 I can seem to find really. I got lucky and only had to pay a total $3750 for the car, even though its really worth only about 3k, but still cheaper then 4k though. But my budget didn't include all this extra stuff to get on the road, I wish I would have known, I would have borrowed more money. I'm hoping the end of the month now to get it on the road. But even after its fixed, still about $350 just to get it registered and insured, then another $100 on inspection and getting the wheels aligned/retake emissions/etc. Fawwwwwuck.
But I want it to get it right first time I guess and make sure its all good, since its going to be taking 450 mile road trips to VA, and back, almost right off the bat. Seems my only consolation is every single bolt I tighten, every hose I clean, every crusty rusted ass nut I clean and fix, every part I replace, every fluid changed and every detail I inspect makes the car just a little more reliable, just a little more sturdy, and a little more ready to hit the ground running, and give me a little piece of mind.
Plans and parts list and all that to come. Open to suggestions ideas etc.
Album of pics of car in the sellers yard, and two audio clips of it running. http://s606.photobucket.com/albums/tt14 ... ll%20Trac/
Anyways, for a background, I found this car on Craigslist during the summer of '08 in the local area for like $4800. After a couple deals on some Del Sols and stuff feel through, I ended up going back to this car. Negotiated down to 4k, and the seller was willing to hold it for me until summer of '09 so I could spend my money on school stuff. Turned out well, since the Navy ended up failing in getting me on AT which I was counting on the money from to buy whatever vehicle I ended up getting. Anyways finally ended up borrowing money out of my retirement account (Stocks blow right now anyways so its not gonna be making any money for awhile), which works out well, 3% interest, and you pay it back to yourself, only money you lose is a $50 fee. Anyways the car, yes, ended up buying it on 6/4/09, and how it towed the 30 miles back to my house (ok, not so local, but friend owes the towing company, I got a good rate).
So now its sitting on the street infront of my house (which happens to be a hill) with some random truck license plate thrown on from the seller way back when to keep his neighbors happy, and expired tags and inspection from 02. So now the race is on to get it fixed before someone finally calls it in or the city sees it and tries to tow.
Known Issues at Purchase (Car has been sitting for 5-6 years):
Turbo Oil seals are blown, its throwing oil into the air intake/tb/engine
Rusted brake line in the front
Some rust under driver side rocker
Alloy Rim needs fixed
Idles like crap
Needs a new battery
More Discovered Issues After a Few Hours of Work:
Rotors and pads are gone, no resurfacing those bastards
Hood Insulation is coming apart and ending up in weird places on the chassis
Exhaust Needs atleast one hole patched/fixed, rear exhuast is going to need dropped and inspected
Broke off 3 bolt heads in cat. convt to turbo. One was already missing
:shrug:
Rounded the A/C. bracket bolt, as well as the front engine support mount bolt. Another engine support bracket bolt is disfigured and needs replaced. Infact, there's a shitload of bolts either broken, rounded, or just flat out missing on the car (Radiator fan was attached via one bolt). I'm not even going to bother to list the rest, even though I prob will so I know to buy anyways.
Catalytic Convert needs new seals.
Coolant hoses are nice and rusted and dirty on the inside. Uh.....
Oil residue is in the intercooler, and probably the rest of the air intake system from the turbo on.
Fog lights don't work.
Missing some brackets for the righthand fuse box (like all of them, like it was just wedged next to the battery). All of the fuse box cases also need new lids, as they're either cracked or have broken off tabs, or both. They'll hold for now though.
Needs a paint job.
So my first order of business has been to try and remove the bad turbo, and replace it with the one I got used. Hopefully the used on works. I've been cleaning up the old turbo in my free time. Using wire wheels to polish the exhaust side, and cleaned the intake side best I can. Had the exhaust manifold that came with it cleaned at NAPA's shop for $15, looks like brand new, so trying to get the turbo to look nice too. It was missing 3 studs, and another was broken off. Got the broken one out, and tapped new threads in. Also bought 3 other studs incase the ones on the car don't come out.
So as of 6/14, I got the exhaust from the turbo to the mp/second part, idk, its like the first half. Also have the cat conv off, as well as the intercooler. A/C has all its bolts to the car loosened, but the bracket bolt got rounded, so its not going to get moved out of the way anyways for the turbo removal (per BGB). The clutch slave cylinder also isn't going anywhere, because the first bolt holding the hydraulic line to the block just turns, like there's a nut on the other side of it, but I can't find one on the back, so it just turns. But doesn't come out. I don't even know why the hell I gotta take it off in the first place :shrug:
Coolant was also drained. Nasty. Either extremely dirty, or has oil in it, or both. Also went to remove the turbo oil hose from the pan. Thought oil might pour out of it (haven't drained the oil yet), and I was right, it started leaking as I was working the hose off. BGB didn't say to drain the oil, or maybe it did and I didn't remember, so I drained the oil. Which overflowed the drain pan I was using, partly because I'm on a hill I guess, but still wouldn't have fit. Ran in the house and found a jug to catch the last bit. etc etc. Needless to say I split a good amount in the street, and also a good bit on my porch transferring it jugs. That was nearly two days ago. Still have the stains. Sum bitch.
The turbo is completely disconnected now, save for the oil hose(?) coming from the block on that huuuggggggeeeee ass nut. Gonna try and just disconnect the hose from the turbo itself instead. The bolt for the turbo bracket to the block is apparently not there (I'm finding numerous missing or loose bolts, clamps, etc). However the turbo will not come loose. It will slide down an inch or tow, then comes back up to nearly its resting position. Have only gotten it about a inch down the studs from the exhaust manifold. I'm guessing the bracket is pushing against the block, and the further down it goes, it just wedges and slides back up. Not sure how I'm going to get the bracket off the turbo though. :|
Some pics.
Oily turbo hose to intercooler.
Oily Air Hose from turbo to air box if I remember right
Rusty rotors. The light colored rust is the from pads rubbing the rotors because I had to use the ebrake when I moved it. :twisted:
Pic of the Engine bay and removed parts after I took some stuff off the otherday. I'll get some updated ones.
I was able to start the car before disassembly, actually fairly easier then last time when I was looking at with the seller. Still idles the same rough. Hopefully its nearly out of gas. Battery will not hold a charge though. Moved it backwards about 5 feet and then drifted/drove in 1st gear the 5 back down the street. The wheels turn and I guess the tranny and diff work :wink: . It seems the more I take this car apart, the more money its going to take. I originally wanted it on the road within a few days. Then I found out it needs $400 in brakes. Then the exhaust is going. So probably another $400 or so, and probably going to have to be that no name motoria or whatever the hell shit, since that's about only completely SS exhaust system under $750 I can seem to find really. I got lucky and only had to pay a total $3750 for the car, even though its really worth only about 3k, but still cheaper then 4k though. But my budget didn't include all this extra stuff to get on the road, I wish I would have known, I would have borrowed more money. I'm hoping the end of the month now to get it on the road. But even after its fixed, still about $350 just to get it registered and insured, then another $100 on inspection and getting the wheels aligned/retake emissions/etc. Fawwwwwuck.
But I want it to get it right first time I guess and make sure its all good, since its going to be taking 450 mile road trips to VA, and back, almost right off the bat. Seems my only consolation is every single bolt I tighten, every hose I clean, every crusty rusted ass nut I clean and fix, every part I replace, every fluid changed and every detail I inspect makes the car just a little more reliable, just a little more sturdy, and a little more ready to hit the ground running, and give me a little piece of mind.
Plans and parts list and all that to come. Open to suggestions ideas etc.
Album of pics of car in the sellers yard, and two audio clips of it running. http://s606.photobucket.com/albums/tt14 ... ll%20Trac/