Almost forgot, the other thing great about these roads, is that there are pull offs for people to pass... and people actually pull over and let you pass. The dragon has these, but the douches on the bikes and RVs tend not to move out of the way. Also the speed limit is 50mph, which is a challenge in itself to stay at. I guess the road isn't that popular anymore, or maybe because it was a weekday, but as long as it stays an alltrac.net secret those who live near can enjoy it. I am about to hike the redwoods so I will maybe put together some pics tonight when I get back to SF.