ST165 - Where to get hubs?

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ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:09 am

I want to replace one of my front hubs and I am having a hard time finding something that says it's meant for the alltrac. Any suggestions?

I was looking at these.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Front-Wheel-Hub-Bearing-Kit-Set-NEW-for-Toyota-Camry-Celica/350482551116?epid=26005395542&hash=item519a63514c%3Ag%3AMOUAAOSwF8Fb7o-P&fits=Year%3A1988%7CModel%3ACelica%7CMake%3AToyota

I had read that Camry's may have used the same hub.

I have a part number, but quick google, Amazon and ebay searches don't show much. 43503-32020
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby dbucks2k » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:23 am

Here's what toyodiy shows for that part number
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby fussellbug » Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:51 pm

The part number you have is for just the wheel bearing. The other parts of the hub set are the actual hub, part# 43502-32050 and seal kit, part# 04422-20010.

The good news is that the EPC shows that the AllTrac hub 43502-32050 is the same one used in the GTS.

*EDIT* This hub is for cars without ABS! The hub for cars with ABS is 43503-32020.
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby UtahSleeper » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:07 pm

My car has ABS, but it is disabled. Does anyone know if there is a difference, besides thew teeth on the hub? I am guessing not since the bearings, rotors, everything else is the same between cars.
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby Corey » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:26 pm

Looking at the parts diagrams for the ST165, there is no difference between the hubs on the ABS v non ABS cars.. Only one part number shows for the hub.

EDIT: Sorry I was looking at the JDM 1988 ST165. It has only one part number for the hub and doesn't specify ABS or not. (Comparing to the USDM, looks like the JDM part number is non-abs 43502-20040.

The 1989 JDM ST165 shows the same part numbers as the USDM ST165.

Looking at the USDM ST165, we get part numbers for hubs for ABS or non ABS.

USDM ST165 1989
43502 HUB SUB-ASSY, FRONT AXLE

43502-20040 (08/1987 - 03/1988)
43502-32040 (04/1988 - 07/1989)
43502-32050 (08/1989 - 07/1989)
43503-32010 W(ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM) (08/1987 - 07/1989)
43503-32020 W(ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM) (08/1989 - 07/1989)

On the ST185 there is no difference in the hubs. Not sure why this would be the case on the ST165. The difference in the ST185 is the knuckle (has the mount drilled out to accept the wheel speed sensor) and the metal dust guard (Deflector) which is pressed into the back side of the knuckle has a 1cm hole in the side of the lip for the sensor to see through.
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby Rick89GTS » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:16 am

My ST165 has ABS and I just had my hub bearings replaced. I can tell you for certain there is a difference in the hubs.
The ABS hubs have a toothed ring on them (see pic) and the non-ABS ones don't. I couldn't locate a new ABS hub in Canada or USA, but luckily, my mechanic was able to re-use my old one, thank God.

The other option would be to disable your ABS, then you can go with non-ABS hubs. That's what I'll do if I have to.
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby 88gt4DE » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:06 pm

I Disabled mine and I "think" I kept the old ABS ring part. I know you said you didn't need it. But if you change yer mind ...
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby Rick89GTS » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:51 am

^Good to know, thanks. :)

Also see my thread on same topic:
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Re: ST165 - Where to get hubs?

Postby UtahSleeper » Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:21 pm

I am probably just going to buy this and go for it. Don't see a need for the teeth since I have ABS disabled and one of the sensors are screwed anyway.

https://www.amazon.com/GMB-770-0058-Wheel-Bearing-Assembly/dp/B004QHI7I0/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Toyota%7C76&Model=Celica%7C1012&Year=1988%7C1988&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&s=automotive&vehicleId=4&vehicleType=automotive
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