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Postby zak062 » Fri May 17, 2013 5:01 pm

Hello gentleman. Its been a while since ive been on here. Long story short, I had to store my 165 for about 3 years. I took all the proper precautions when I did. Now she just does not want tovstart. I have no spark at all coming out ofvthe coil. I have power going to it. I just bought and replaced it with a denso toyota coil. My rotor, plugs, wires, and capv all have less than 100 miles on them. So why the hell is no power coming out of the coil. Thanks in advance.
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Re: no spark

Postby GT4_DRED » Fri May 17, 2013 6:55 pm

If its a factory coil, make sure it's grounded to the chassis. I strapped mine to the strut brace once and it wouldn't fire, but did once I bolted it to the brace.
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Re: no spark

Postby Awesome-Trac » Fri May 17, 2013 7:06 pm

Make sure to check the plug connected from the alternator bracket to the chassis, mine actually melted and never got a spark until it removed and properly replaced with a non plug type ground cable
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Fri May 17, 2013 7:17 pm

I just ran a ground from the coil to the coil to firewall as suggested. Still no spark. Ill check the alternator plug.
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Fri May 17, 2013 11:02 pm

Update. I have proper grounding. I read through the bgb and after runing all the tests. It says to replace the igniter. Thats the final step. So does anyone have a igniter.
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Re: no spark

Postby warracer » Sat May 18, 2013 12:32 am

before changing the igniter, check your rotor/cap? The car has been sitting for 3 years, it is possible that some moisture got stuck in the assembly and completely ruined the contacts, seen that before. So much resistance due to the corrosion, no fire whatsoever... And to simply diagnose an igniter, just crank the engine and if the tachometer moves, its fine. If it stays flat, change it
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Sat May 18, 2013 12:36 am

Theres no power comming outvof the coil. And the tach is not moving.
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:19 am

Update. I bit the bullet and bought a new ignitor. Still no spark coming out of the coil and the tach still does not move. Any suggestions?
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91 Celica gts Sold
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Re: no spark

Postby warracer » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:20 am

try to check the continuity of the connections? you may have some kind of dead end in your ignition circuit somewhere, it can be a pain to diagnose though... The igniter trick worked out fine for me... :doh:
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:25 am

Heres a nive little video. Notice how the tach does not bounce. As well as no check engine light coming on. Which is definatly weird since I always had one on due to removing the air to water intercool for a air to air.

I apologise for it being upside down. Smart phones arnt so smart
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91 Celica gts Sold
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Re: no spark

Postby warracer » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:01 am

man this reminds me of my last winter , bad times... :(
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:06 am

Yea. At least I have another car to dd. It really bugs me that the check engine light isnt on at all. Any idea what would cause that?
03 Subaru wrx(DD) My first non-toyota
91 Mr2 #2 (sold)
91 Mr2 (Sold)
08 Scion TC (Sold)
88 alltrac, blue (Project)
89 CBR 600F Sold
91 Celica gts Sold
90 Celica gts Sold
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:06 am

New update. Car has no fuel pressure either. Now im really confused.
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08 Scion TC (Sold)
88 alltrac, blue (Project)
89 CBR 600F Sold
91 Celica gts Sold
90 Celica gts Sold
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Re: no spark

Postby Tecker185 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:20 am

Check the distributor, if the ecu does not see the engine turning over it will not turn the pump on. My money is on the distributor.
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Re: no spark

Postby zak062 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:33 am

Tecker184 wrote:Check the distributor, if the ecu does not see the engine turning over it will not turn the pump on. My money is on the distributor.


You owe me money then. I just the +b and fp terminals on the diag port. And she fired right up.
03 Subaru wrx(DD) My first non-toyota
91 Mr2 #2 (sold)
91 Mr2 (Sold)
08 Scion TC (Sold)
88 alltrac, blue (Project)
89 CBR 600F Sold
91 Celica gts Sold
90 Celica gts Sold
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